Hi Alia,

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> From: Alia Atlas [mailto:akat...@gmail.com]
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> Subject: Alia Atlas' Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-06: (with 
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> DISCUSS:
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> Thank you for a clear and well-written document.  I have one point that is
> peripheral to most of the draft.
> 
> In Section 4.3, it says:
> 
>  " In addition, for any other
>    applications that generate intra-subnet traffic with TTL set to 1,
>    these applications may not work properly in the Virtual Subnet
>    context, unless special TTL processing for such context has been
>    implemented (e.g., if the source and destination addresses of a
>    packet whose TTL is set to 1 belong to the same extended subnet,
>    neither ingress nor egress PE routers should decrement the TTL of
>    such packet.  Furthermore, the TTL of such packet should not be
>    copied into the TTL of the transport tunnel and vice versa)."
> 
> The idea of not decrementing TTL is quite concerning.  I can conjecture cases
> where there is a routing loop between the relevant PEs - during reconvergence
> when a host moves from one datacenter to another is a trivial case.
> 
> One approach may be to ask why a packet would have a TTL of 1 and determine
> if this case must be resolved.  Another might detecting a loop back to an
> out-of-datacenter PE and dropping the packet.  I'm sure you can develop other
> good ideas and solutions.

How about doing the following text change:

" In addition, for any other
    applications that generate intra-subnet traffic with TTL set to 1,
    these applications may not work properly in the Virtual Subnet
    context, unless special TTL processing and loop-prevention mechanisms for 
such context have been
    implemented. Details about such special TTL processing and loop-prevention 
mechanisms are outside the scope of this document."

Best regards,
Xiaohu

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