Sasha,

Thank you kindly for this.

Best Regards,
Menachem

From: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>
Date: Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 12:12
To: Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com>
Cc: bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Draft draft-ietf-bess-7432bis-07 Section 7.5, 7.11 and 14.1.1
Menachem,
More inline below.

Regards,
Sasha

From: Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 11:56 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>
Cc: bess@ietf.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft draft-ietf-bess-7432bis-07 Section 7.5, 7.11 and 
14.1.1

Hello Sasha,

Thank you kindly for your email.

Based on what you have written the PE that is attached to this MH ES will send 
the RED=00 in the Type 1 Ethernet A-D ESI route and will send the L2-ATTR with 
the ‘P’ bit raised.
[[Sasha]] There are two flavors of Ethernet A-D (EVPN Type 1) routes: per-ES 
(with all zeroes in the Label field and MAX-ET in the Ethernet Tag ID field) 
and per EVI (with the valid Ethernet Tag ID value identifying the BD for which 
it has been advertised, and with the valid “aliasing” label for this BD).
In the case of an All-Active MH ES:

  *   RED in the ESI Label Extended Community attached to (potentially, 
multiple copies of) the per-ES Ethernet A-D route (with different 
auto-generated RD in the NLRI of these copies) MUST be set to ‘00’
  *   P bit in the Layer 2 Attributes Extended Community attached to the 
per-EVI Ethernet A-D route SHOULD be set to ‘1’.

If for whatever reason (example misconfiguration) another PE attached to the 
same MH ES sends RED=01 what should be the behavior of the first PE when it 
receives this information?
[[Sasha]] I think that the only thing you can do is  to report a 
misconfiguration problem.

Thank you kindly.

Best Regards,
Menachem

From: Alexander Vainshtein 
<alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com<mailto:alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>>
Date: Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 10:01
To: Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com<mailto:mdo...@drivenets.com>>
Cc: bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org> <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: Draft draft-ietf-bess-7432bis-07 Section 7.5, 7.11 and 14.1.1
Menachem,
Please see some tentative answers to your questions inline below.

Hopefully this helps.

Regards,
Sasha

From: BESS <bess-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of 
Menachem Dodge
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 11:29 AM
To: bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [bess] Draft draft-ietf-bess-7432bis-07 Section 7.5, 
7.11 and 14.1.1

Hello All,

Please could someone kindly respond to my questions below.

Thank you kindly.

Best Regards,
Menachem Dodge

From: Menachem Dodge <mdo...@drivenets.com<mailto:mdo...@drivenets.com>>
Date: Sunday, 11 June 2023 at 16:17
To: bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org> <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>
Subject: Draft draft-ietf-bess-7432bis-07 Section 7.5, 7.11 and 14.1.1
Hello All,

I have a query regarding the behavior of a PE that is a member of an ES and has 
been configured to be in All-Active mode.

According to section 7.5 the multihomed site redundancy mode is set to RED = 
00: A value of 00 means that the multihomed site is operating in All-Active 
redundancy mode.

What defines “operating”?  Is this according to local configuration only?
[[Sasha]] Please note that the highlighted text in the draft refers to 
operation of the customer site to which multiple EVPN PEs are attached via 
PE-CE links forming an All-Active MH ES. I.e., this site:

·         MUST be ready to receive and deliver to its proper destination an 
Ethernet frame received from any of these links

·         Expects that traffic it sends to remote sites via any of these links 
to be delivered to its proper destination.
One example of such behavior is a site with a single CE that terminates all 
PE-CE links comprising the MH ES in question and locally treating them as a  
single Link Aggregation Group with all members being in the “Collecting and 
Distributing” state.

In section 7.11 the ‘P’ bit of the L2-ATTR Extended Community MUST be set to 1 
for multihoming All-Active scenarios by all active PE(s).
What is an “active PE”? Is this according to local configuration only?
[[Sasha]] From my POV an active PE in this context is a PE that can send and 
receive traffic via the PE-CE link that locally (in this PE) represents the 
All-Active MH ES in question.


In section 14.1.1 it states that:



For a given ES, if a remote PE has imported the set of Ethernet A-D
   per ES routes from at least one PE, where the "Single-Active" flag in
   the ESI Label extended community is set, then that remote PE MUST
   deduce that the ES is operating in Single-Active redundancy mode.


My understanding is that the meaning of “remote PE” is a PE that is not a 
member of the ES. This statement indicates that the “remote PE” deduces that 
the ES is operating in Single-Active redundancy mode from the set of Ethernet 
A-D per ES routes it has received.

What should be the behavior of the “local PE” that is a member of the ES ? I 
could not find this defined in the document.

Does the “local PE” assume that the configuration of all attached PEs to the ES 
is consistent and therefore it sends RED = 00 and sets the ‘P’ bit in the 
L2-ATTR ? Or does the “local PE” change what it advertises according to what it 
receives from the other “local PEs” attached to the same ES?

For example: If a PE is configured as all-active shall this PE Send RED=00 and 
set the ‘P’ bit in the L2-ATTR, even when it receives from another PE on the 
same Ethernet-Segment RED=01 ?

Thank you kindly.

Best Regards,

Menachem Dodge​​​​
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