Hi Neeraj,

Exactly! And I mentioned this during my presentation at BESS. It Is also 
explicitly described in section 2.1.1 of the draft:


“  Since there is no L2 forwarding, there is no need
   for populating L2FIB; however, L2RIB needs to be populated for host
   mobility procedures because host mobility in EVPN is based on MAC
   mobility which is tracked in L2RIB.”

Cheers,
Ali

From: Neeraj Malhotra <neeraj.i...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, November 6, 2023 at 4:13 PM
To: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>, 
draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-...@ietf.org 
<draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-...@ietf.org>, bess@ietf.org 
<bess@ietf.org>, Nitsan Dolev <nitsan.do...@rbbn.com>
Subject: Re: [bess] A question about draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-irb

Hi Ali, Sasha,

minor comment in case it wasn't already clear - each PE still learns all MACs 
in the control plane (for mobility procedures to work) but only locally 
connected MACs are installed in the forwarding plane. Hence the optimization. 
Ali, please confirm.

Thanks,
Neeraj

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:37 AM Ali Sajassi (sajassi) 
<sajassi=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
Hi Sasha,

Each PE only learns local MAC addresses and NOT remote ones. So, lets says you 
have a subnet that is stretched across 10 PEs and each PE has 100 locally 
connected hosts. So, the total number of MAC addresses for the subnet is 1000 
(10X100) but each PE ONLY learns 100 MAC addresses. This is in contrast with 
the traditional EVPN-IRB where each PE learns all 1000 MAC addresses.

Cheers,
Ali

From: BESS <bess-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of 
Alexander Vainshtein 
<alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com<mailto:alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>>
Date: Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:31 AM
To: 
draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-...@ietf.org>
 
<draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-...@ietf.org>>
Cc: bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org> <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>, 
Nitsan Dolev <nitsan.do...@rbbn.com<mailto:nitsan.do...@rbbn.com>>
Subject: [bess] A question about draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-irb
Hi,
This the question I have tried to ask during the meeting.

The Introduction to draft in 
question<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-l3-optimized-irb-00#section-1>
  claims “improving MAC scalability of customer bridges and PE devices 
significantly”.
The first of these claims is easy to understand: each specific CE switch has to 
learn just one MAC address (that of the optimized IRB) in addition to MAC 
addresses of its locally attached hosts.

But I have doubts about the second of these claims: to the best of my 
understanding, each PE attached to the subnet in question will learn MAC 
addresses of all attached hosts in the subnet.

What, if anything, did I miss?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha



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