On 20 Feb 2008, at 10:55 AM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
>
> Am 19.02.2008 um 23:43 schrieb Adam R. Maxwell:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> "Alexander H. Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2008-02-19, at 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Would it reduce the confusion to just save as UTF-8 by default?
>>>>> As
>>>>> long
>>>>> as TeX conversion is enabled, that should (usually) be fine for
>>>>> TeX
>>>>> users who work with ASCII exclusively. I save my files as UTF-8
>>>>> just to
>>>>> avoid this problem, since the odd characters are almost
>>>>> exclusively
>>>>> in
>>>>> abstracts which never get printed in TeX anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> adam
>>>>
>>>> If UTF-8 transparently deals with gremlins and plain text but
>>>> Western
>>>> ASCII does not, it would seem to make sense to have UTF-8 the
>>>> default
>>>> format as you suggest.
>>>>
>>>> The other related issue is that after I do convert my file to
>>>> UTF-8,
>>>> I get
>>>> an annoying little message whenever I start BibDesk that says,
>>>>
>>>> "The document will be opened with encoding Western (ASCII), but it
>>>> was
>>>> previously saved with encoding Unicode (UTF-8). You should cancel
>>>> opening
>>>> and then reopen with the correct encoding."
>>>
>>> If you go to Preferences->Files, you can change the "Open and export
>>> BibTeX files using encoding" to Unicode. That should stop the
>>> messages.
>>
>> Correct, or use the "Open..." menu item and specify UTF-8 as the
>> encoding.
>
>>
>> …
>
>> --
>> adam
>
> Hello,
>
> this was a very welcome hint. I've been pondering for a while what to
> do about UTF8 or not and comments and abstracts. That Bibdesk is
> handling this in the background was something I didn't know and I'm
> very happy to learn about!
>
> Now I face a problem connected to this.
>
> When citing references which have a quote in their title (I'm a
> historian) I've been putting in code-snippets like "\glqq some title-
> text\grqq \ " or \glqq some title-text\glqq " into entries and via the
> babel{german}-package and jurabib they turned right into what I wanted
> them to look, in preview and in my documents. Does anybody know of a
> smarter way to do this?
>
> I am asking because when exporting a list of entries to html for an
> online bibliography those "\glqq some title-text\grqq \ " are
> obviously unwanted. Unfortunately quite a many references from my
> database have such modifications.
>
> Any hints, ideas?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rolf
>
> --
> Rolf Schmolling M.A. Historian, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/
>
You could turn on TeX conversion in the Files prefs, add custom 2-way
conversions for {\glqq} and {\grqq}, and use those forms (including
the braces). BibDesk will display the quotes, but save the TeX forms
in bibtex.
Christiaan
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