The Soubitez was a really great idea for its time: ran right on the tire
instead of the sidewall, perfectly positioned at the chainstay bridge or
kickstand plate. You could turn it on by kicking it with your foot, which
makes more sense than trying to reach around to pop a bottle generator into
place. I think there were still issues with over-voltage and standlights
hadn't been developed yet, but for an seventies technology they were
excellent.

That said, I'm really much more impressed with what has been developed since
then. Standlights, LEDs, hub generators. I must disclose that I own probably
five or six Schmidt generator hubs that I've purchased from our host, Peter
White, and a bunch of LED headlights and taillights, including the DLumotec
Topal, Lumotec Oval, Dlumotec Oval, InoLED, 4D Toplight, and Seculite.
Lighting is a personal issue with me: I'm the one willing to spare no
expense to have dependable, weatherproof lighting that even turns itself on,
or runs 24/7 without worrying about burnt-out bulbs.

As far as resistance is concerned, an engineer on another list told me that
generator lighting wasn't an option for him because the resistance in the
hub would cut his efficiency. He even invoked the Second Law of
Thermodynamics. I rolled my eyes when I heard this bit: only an engineer
would believe that the Second Law comes into effect when one is generating 3
watts of power. Besides, I don't think he realized that generator hubs are
optimized for maximum efficiency. I don't think if you took two wheels with
identical rims, tires and tubes, but one with a generator hub and one with a
standard high-performance hub, that the generator would roll down a hill any
slower than the high-performance: if there were a difference, it would be a
matter of seconds.

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:23 PM, cheesy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I must have gotten lucky with the Soubitez gennys. Other than having
> to regroove on occasion, I've only had to replace one internal wire(if
> I had to do it again, I'd toss the unit, but you learn nothing if you
> don't try). Other than that, they were/are fantastic units for the
> time and I still run them on two of my bikes. I look for 'em at bike
> swaps; never know when you need that extra one for parts.;)
>
>  I do have a Sanyo bb genny that is a POS and gave me nothing but
> headaches. I keep it around to remind me what NOT to get at a bike
> swap.
>
> On Aug 31, 3:58 pm, Peter Jon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Depends on the model. The early Shimanos actually had higher drag with
> > the lights turned off than with the lights on. They've now got that
> > straightened out.
> >
> > On Aug 31, 1:32 pm, GeorgeS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have no experience with generators but I recently acquired a bike
> > > equipped with a Shimano generator and an LED light.  Seems to work
> > > great on the few night rides I've taken.  Question: does the generator
> > > produce drag when the light is not on?   Another question: standard
> > > maintenance?  Lots of wet weather where I live (New Orleans)
> > > GeorgeS
> >
> > > On Aug 29, 4:55 pm, Tim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > cheesy wrote:
> > > > >I've run the Soubitez models, with Union halogen headlights, for
> > > > >years. The one on my brevet bike has been in use since 1990. I have
> a
> > > > >friction shift lever mounted on the seat tube to engage and
> disengage
> > > > >the unit on this bike.
> >
> > > > >Yes, you can run full fenders.
> >
> > > > Agree. I ran the same set-up for a few years back in the early 1980s.
> > > > At the time it was by far the most reliable and brightest set-up for
> > > > lights available. I ran it in Illinois, and did some winter riding.
> > > > But for brevets I switched back to batteries powering the Union.
> > > > Different bike, with not enough clearance at the chain stays to mount
> > > > the generator easily.
> >
> > > > These days, I wouldn't run anything but a SON (or maybe Shimano) hub
> > > > and an LED light. Pricey, but ultra-reliable. Well, if I had a beater
> > > > bike for winter commuting I might think about a bottle generator.
> > > > Batteries? No way, Jose. (Except for LED taillights, where they
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> >
>


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