This talk of 60's era Italian bikes prompted me to share pictures of
my Frejus that I bought from Thomas Avenia in 1969.  It came with
aluminum "training fenders" and was all campy except for the brakes
which were Universal center pull.  The silks were Clement Paris-
Robaix.  It cost a lot - $350.  
http://s409.photobucket.com/albums/pp178/tulanedog/Frejus/

On Oct 24, 9:34 am, Peter Jon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wuh duh yuh mean?!?!?!!?!
>
> In the eighties I was selling Gios Torino, which was about as radical
> as you could get. My sincere condolences to everyone who bought
> one. ;-)
>
> But these Olmo frames are not really like what was being raced in the
> sixties. A sixties racing bike could fit fenders. The chainstays were
> longer and they fit brake calipers that are now called "long reach."
> I've seen these Olmo frames at Interbike and they look to be rather
> well made. They're definitely an eighties style frame though. It looks
> like they're using copies of the semi-vertical rear dropouts Shimano
> used to make, which I used on most of the racing frames I built in the
> 90s. I would avoid the horizontal rear dropout version, since all
> modern rear derailleurs are designed to be located quite accurately
> relative to the rear axle, and shifting can suffer a bit with
> horizontals since the derailleur ends up too close to the cogs unless
> you position the wheel way back in the dropouts.
>
> On Oct 24, 9:16 am, JoelMatthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Speedgoat's main fare is pretty far out of the Peter White ouvre.  But
> > check out what they will be carrying from Olmo (the 10/23/08 entry):
>
> >http://www.speedgoat.com/blog.asp
>
> > Lugged steel frames made in Italy with classic Italian racing
> > geometry.  Get a frame and trick it out with a Zephyr light crank and
> > some fast wheels with shimano hubs and light velocity rims, etc.
>
> > You could build a bike very close to what a '60s Italian racer would
> > have used without having to worry about ruining a classic frame and
> > parts.
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