On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 17:39, Piaw Na(蓝俊彪) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Rivendells are spec'd with high trail, because that's the way Grant
>> likes it. I suspect that there are a number of reasons for his
>> preference, but I would like to say first and foremost that he
>> probably considers trail to be insignificant in comparison to other
>> design considerations; in fact, I've heard him say as much. That said,
>> some of what I think might be informing that is his preference for
>> rear loading (the proportion of rear/front load does indeed affect the
>> way the bike handles), his feeling that toe-clip overlap is not
>> significant, the speeds he likes on downhills, and that he prefers
>> stability and the ability of a bike to hold a line well.
>
> Higher skill riders prefer higher trail, because those riders tend to
> go for higher speeds and tougher cornering situations, in which case
> the increased stability and ability to hold the line helps keep the
> bike stable over rough roads or under less than optimal conditions.
> For those riders, at low speed the increased wheel flop is not an
> issue, because the rider is skilled enough to to compensate (I can
> control my circa 1993 Grant-designed bicycle at 2mph climbing a hill
> no matter what). Toe clip overlap is similarly not an issue.
>
> I've attempted to descend with Grant, and he's definitely a very
> highly skilled descender, but having known his tastes his bikes, I'd
> say that the feeling of agility and freedom when you get on one of his
> designs is as much a factor in his design as to achieve such
> performance goals.
>
> Unless you deliver newspapers off the front of the bike (i.e., what
> Kogswell and Jan Heine seem to want to design for), I see no reason to
> compromise high speed handling for the sake of being able to carry a
> front load.
> --

So, are you implying that riders who want to carry a front load are
unskilled? Well, that may apply to me, but I don't think it would
apply to Jan Heine or Joel Metz, and I don't think it would apply to
Matthew Grimm either.

Jan felt that the very low trail fork (30mm trail) was uncomfortable
to ride, and I suspect the reason for this was coming down a slope and
not having the kind of stability one expects from a high-trail bike.
However, if your purpose is not bombing down the Swiss Alps, why
sacrifice the ability to carry groceries home on a front rack?

-- 
How often have I lain beneath rain on a strange roof, thinking of home.

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