Hi Robbie,
I am pretty sure that the green arrow has been there at least since
2008, which is when I started passing through that intersection on
foot on a regular basis. I don't know about the history of it, though.
Best regards,
Sean
On Nov 4, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Robbie Webber wrote:
Thanks, Sean for the confirmation.
I used to bike through that intersection quite a bit, but now take a
different route, so didn't realize that intersection also had a
green arrow. Is that new, or has it always been there? I know the
Orchard St light is new, but were there changes to the Randall light
as well, or have I not noticed the arrow in the past? (I have little
reason to make a left there, even when driving my car, so maybe I
just never noticed it.)
Yes, unfortunately, many bicyclists run red lights. And many don't
use lights, which also could have been a factor, even if he had a
green. I'm not going to get into a flame war about running the red,
except to say that I have found that bad habits are hard to break,
and I have almost gotten nailed a couple of times by getting in the
habit of rolling certain stop signs "because there's never any
traffic." Well, once in awhile there IS traffic...
Regardless, hitting the windshield hard enough to break it is never
good. Let's hope the bicyclist is going to be OK.
Robbie Webber
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Sean B. Cash <[email protected]> wrote:
Robbie,
I just spoke with somebody at the Library, the bar/cafe on Randall
between University and Johnson. Indeed, it was a bike vs. car
crash, exactly of the sort that you hypothesized: A car turned left
in front of an oncoming bicycle, and the bike ran into the
windshield. According to him, the cyclist was taken to the hospital
but apparently will recover.
However, I did not hear whether the accident occured when the bike
had a green or a red (for those who don't know the intersection,
there is a left turn arrow for westbound cars past the green for
pedestrians and eastbound bicycles).
Best regards,
Sean Cash
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Robbie Webber wrote:
OH, and I forgot one more detail that made me think it was a bike
vs. car crash: broken windshield in the upper passenger side of the
car.
Robbie Webber
Bike Walk Madison Steering Committee
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Approx. 8 PM, riding home tonight, saw lots of flashing lights and
multiple police cars. Randall between Johnson and University
completely closed. Circled the area on my bike, but couldn't
determine what had happened. Bike laying on the SW curb. Car with
flashers on parked headed south on Randall.
Bike vs. car? Maybe left turning car failed to yield to eastbound
bike?
Anyone know?
Robbie Webber
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