Just last week I had a police officer "return the wave" when I was signalling a right turn. If even the police can't be bothered to read a driver's ed pamphlet it's going to be a tough sell for everyone else. On Apr 18, 2011 1:05 PM, "Sean B. Cash" <[email protected]> wrote: > I strongly agree with India on this last point. I think that there is > a large number of people (esp. non-cyclists) out there who wouldn't > even recognize the bent-left-arm signal as a signal at all until too > late. I used to signal that way, and deliberately switched to a > straight left- or right-arm turn signal many years ago. > > Best regards, > > Sean > > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 1:01 PM, India Rose Viola wrote: > >> Kris, >> >> Just to put it out there- what is confusing about having someone >> signal for a right turn with their right arm extended? I think that >> the right arm extended for a right turn is now a well-known >> convention. It makes a lot more sense to me than the bent left arm >> that was a byproduct of being in a car with only a window on the >> left side to stick your arm out of. >> >> I think it is ok have the conventions evolve to become more >> efficient and straightforward for their functions. >> >> -india >> >> >> >> >> >> On 04/18/11, "Kristine M. Niemann" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Mary, I couldn't agree more. We definitely need to revisit bike >>> education in the schools. I've been meaning to contact someone >>> about getting this in my son's school. Last week I saw I mom and >>> bike trailer and two kids on small bikes behind her on the left >>> side of the road. I had just turned onto the street they were >>> riding on and almost hit them. It sent a chill down my spine to >>> think of the tragedy of if I were a car. >>> >>> also, people don't' seem to understand bike hand signals >>> anymore...especially for a right turn. I see a lot of the straight >>> arm right turn signals, and it's just confusing, since it's against >>> convention. Since hand signals are a split-second type of thing, >>> it can get confusing and dangerous when people start making up >>> signals. >>> kris >>> >>> From: Mary Mullen <[email protected]> >>> To: Matt Logan <[email protected]>; Tom Held < [email protected] >>> >; "Corsi, Larry - DOT" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Amanda White <[email protected]>; [email protected] >>> Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 12:26:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Bikies] Off the Couch post on cyclist deaths - >>> vulnerable user law >>> >>> One thing I’ve noticed regarding bike safety is that a number of >>> people – both adults and kids – ride their bikes on the left facing >>> traffic rather than being on the right going with traffic. I’ve >>> seen this on the Verona Road and Beltline frontage roads and on >>> ordinary Madison streets as well. Maybe some education in the >>> schools is called for? >>> >>> >>> On 4/18/11 11:16 AM, "Matt Logan" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I know the BFW is well-intentioned in this, but a quick read of the >>> comments clearly demonstrated to me why the BFW is barking up the >>> wrong tree: Our current state leaders are likely to blame >>> bicyclists for their deaths when they hear these stories. I have >>> heard it takes repeating something seven times for a message to >>> sink in, so I will say it again: the BFW’s best chance of making >>> progress with the current administration is funding better, safer >>> travel for children on bicycles. I have talked to a lot of >>> conservatives and listened to conservative radio. They don’t value >>> adult bicycling enough to fund it. If you want to succeed, target >>> improving bicycling for children. >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] >>> ] On Behalf Of Tom Held >>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:34 AM >>> To: 'Corsi, Larry - DOT' >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: [Bikies] Off the Couch post on cyclist deaths - vulnerable >>> user law >>> >>> >>> http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/lifestyle/120010609.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >>> >> -- >> India Viola >> Stretton Lab >> 115 Zoology Research >> 1117 W. Johnson St. >> Madison, WI 53706 >> 608.262.3336 >> >> "How can we learn from our mistakes if we don't first acknowledge >> them?" -Anonymous >> >> Corporations are not citizens. Money is not speech. >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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