Where the bike path through the Isthmus crosses Willy St at Riverside Drive just east of the Yahara River (actually, it's Winnebago and not Willy St there, but most people seem to think of it and call it Willy St there) is another very problematic intersection.
Cyclists waiting to cross Willy/Winnebago are in direct conflict with NB cars on Riverside Drive turning right ON GREEN (because the topography renders the sight lines so poor most drivers, myself included, are afraid to turn right on red there since we cannot see EB traffic on Willy St. also, for whatever reason, many, many EB drivers on Willy St fail to stop or even slow down when faced with a red at the intersection of Willy/Winnebago and Riverside. And I'm not just talking about those drivers pushing a yellow light. I'm talking about situations where the light has been red for EB Willy St for quite some time, bikes and peds (and sometimes NB cars on Riverside) have already begun to cross, and a driver blows through the intersection at speed scattering everyone. It's happened to me and my family multiple times, and there's been quite a bit of discussion on our neighborhood block's micro-list serve. I suspect part of it is that the traffic signal there goes to blinking red for Riverside and bike path traffic and blinking yellow for traffic on Willy St/Winnebago, and some some drivers who have maybe only ever gone through the intersection when they faced a blinking yellow light don't realize that they will ever face a solid red there. But whatever the reason(s), that crossing needs something done, perhaps along the same lines as Dunning/Atwood where bikes (and peds?) get a green crossing and their own interval to cross without having to compete with NB drivers on Riverside turning right (east) onto Winnebago/Eastwood. Chuck Strawser Pedestrian & Bicycle Transportation Planner Commuter Solutions Transportation Services UW-Madison Room 124 WARF 610 Walnut St Madison WI 53726 608-263-2969 www.wisc.edu/trans -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul T. O'Leary Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Division @ Cap City Trail The electronic expression of the No Turn on Red implemented down the street at the Harmony Bar intersection is one of the best things to come out of that project. Before seeing this, stewing on how NTOR violations have reached pandemic proportions and seeing some sobering close calls related thereto, I had in my mind a proposal, that the law be changed so that EVERY intersection that is NOT "NTOR" should have a sign indicating right-on-red is allowed, and that unless otherwise indicated, it's prohibited. The electronic sign trumps that idea. The State should make this the standard for EVERY NTOR intersection. Even those based on time-of-day could easily be programmed using an on-board clock. On 2013/09/18 13:01, India Viola wrote: > Anyone else find this intersection problematic? > If so, I ask that you send your comments to the city via the link below. > > https://www.cityofmadison.com/reportAProblem/ > > Here's what I wrote: > > Category: Traffic Enforcement Concern > > Type of Violation: Stop Light Violation Day of Violation: All Time of > Violation: All pm > Location: The intersection of Division St. at Atwood Avenue heading > North (Car driving on Division St. turing right onto Atwood Ave heading east). > Message: Right on red from Division St. onto Atwood. Signage indicates > "no right on red". The sign is placed too far back in the intersection > to be seen properly by cars that are stopped at a red light. A sign > should be placed across Atwood so that it is clearly visible by a car > that has come to a stop at the intersection. This creates an extremely > dangerous situation for cyclists and others crossing the Capital City > Path. A friend of mine was nearly struck by a car at this intersection last night. > -- Paul T. O'Leary Chronic Nuisance Madison, WI USA _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
