First rule of politics, Bob. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
Al Matano >> "Either way f--- your sarcasm and take a look at the real issue > of email >> etiquette." >> >> Robert - nice > that you lecture people on email etiquette while cursing at >> > them. Unintended irony? Pot calling the kettle black? Anyway.... > > No, intended, not unintended. I was responding in kind to the > hostile and sarcastic tone of the original response, and regret that I > escalated it an additional step rather than de-escalated it. It may > not have been Donna's intention, and I strongly doubt that what came > across in email from either of us accurately represents how the > interaction would have gone in person. Sorry. > >> This > was hashed out on the listserv a few months back if I recall, and the >> general consensus among people who replied and the list admin was > that >> attachments should be allowed. Specifically: >> >> " The position of the list administrator is: >> >> I'm open to bumping up the size limit to something like 30Mb. This > should >> allow sending small or medium-sized documents. >> > But this list isn't really intended for distributing large documents. > > That was Darin's FIRST response (which in itself states his > opinion that the list shouldn't be used for distributing documents), but > he sent another message on the topic afterward that was more > restrictive. If someone can remind me of the range of dates, it's > possible that I might have saved it and can share it with you to bring you > up to date. > >> While I agree that links should be provided > when the are available, this isn't 1994, and >> attachments are a > regular part of email these days and are not considered a violation >> of some unwritten etiquette. > > I readily use attachments > for work, volunteer, and personal email when it is appropriate to use > email for a file transfer. But just because the capability exists > doesn't mean it should be used in all circumstances. The fundamental > difference you are apparently failing to comprehend is that you cannot > ethically assume that what might be appropriate to do with clients, > colleagues, and personal friends is also going to be appropriate for a > large list of people you may not know and you may not have much else in > common except some shared interest in one or more of a wide variety of > issues relating to bicycle transportation. > > Although you may > haughtily dismiss a variety of computing-related concerns as being in some > way quaint or antiquated, it is extremely presumptuous for you to assume > that none of them should any longer be of concern to anyone else, because, > well, because you said so, You don't know that there might not be someone > using dialup. You don't know that some email accounts have storage > quotas. And it's not enough just to say delete it without opening > it, because some harms can be caused just by its being delivered and > taking up space on the server if it sits there for a couple days or a > couple hours before the nonconsenting recipient of a large and possibly > trivial file attachment hasn't had a chance to delete it yet, and then > other people trying to email that recipient wonder why there messages are > being rejected or are getting "mailbox full" error > messages. You don't know what inadvertently infected documents might > or might not be caught by a security scan. You don't know if someone > else is reading email on a phone that might have a costly data plan. You > don't know about many other possible concerns someone might have. > With hundreds of people on the list, there are so many things that you > just don't know about the hundreds of individual situations that it makes > it inappropriate to assume that it's okay to send anything other than a > plain text email. > > If it's a document you found online, just > share the URL and have the courtesy to respect the recipient's decision to > view or download--or NOT view or download it--rather than just presuming > to ram it down everyone else's inboxes. If it's a document you created or > that was passed along to you by someone else and you want others on the > list to see it (or to have the option to see it), it becomes YOUR > responsibility to put it online in some personal file sharing space of > yours, such as Dropbox, CX, SkyDrive, UbuntuOne, or whatever else you > might use (rather than taking the lazy way out and making the improper > assumption that it's okay to indiscriminately send it to everyone), to > give the hundreds of others on the list that same option of obtaining a > copy or not, as they would have in the situation in which it is already > accessible online. > > Remember, the list members are not your > personal friends, clients, or colleagues, so different procedures > apply. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
