I think you should proceed supposing that the build system will not install 
samtools, and that an R-based implementation is 'in the future'. As such, you 
should arrange in your examples / vignette to provide 'mock' output from 
samtools that you then process in your package -- kind of like the old cooking 
shows where the roast went into the oven before the commercial and came out 
ready to eat after...

Martin

On 8/27/19, 12:38 PM, "Jonathon Hill" <jh...@byu.edu> wrote:

    Hi,
    
    I just wanted to check in, as I know we got interrupted by the weekend. Any 
thoughts on the best way forward? 
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jonathon
    
    > On Aug 23, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Jonathon Hill <jh...@byu.edu> wrote:
    > 
    > Yes, gladly. Thank you for taking time to help me. Here is the exact line 
of R code where we build the samtools command (the file to be tested is added 
later):
    > 
    > args <- paste("mpileup -ERI",   #Redo Baq, ignore readgroups, and skip 
indels
    >                 "-f", refFasta(param),
    >                 "-C 50",
    >                 "--min-MQ", minMapQuality(param),
    >                 "--min-BQ", minBaseQuality(param),
    >                 "--region", as.character(chrRange, ignore.strand=TRUE))
    > 
    > As you can see, we use the BAQ score to filter. We have tried to 
implement it without BAQ (using Rsamtools) and found it negatively affected our 
results.
    > 
    >> On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Martin Morgan <mtmorgan.b...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
    >> 
    >> can you provide an example of the samtools command line that you 
evaluate?
    >> 
    >> On 8/23/19, 6:11 PM, "Bioc-devel on behalf of Jonathon Hill" 
<bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org on behalf of jh...@byu.edu> wrote:
    >> 
    >>   I had not until today. I spent the afternoon looking at the 
possibility, and it looks like it would be beyond my lab’s skills. We do not 
have anyone comfortable in C, as we do everything in R. The problem is that we 
need to get the results of the mpileup command with BAQ score. Although it has 
a pileup command, the Rsamtools implementation does not include the ability to 
retrieve the BAQ score as far as we can tell, so we had to fall back on making 
a system call to Rsamtools and reading in the results. Using Rhtslib is 
intriguing, but it looks like we would need several header files in Samtools as 
opposed to htslib and then implement our own C function. Again, we do not have 
anyone that could do this. We are scientists, not programmers. Am I correct on 
what it would require? Do you know of any other alternatives? 
    >> 
    >>   Jonathon
    >> 
    >>> On Aug 23, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Pages, Herve <hpa...@fredhutch.org> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> Hi Jonathon,
    >>> 
    >>> Have you considered depending on Rhtslib? See 
    >>> https://bioconductor.org/packages/Rhtslib
    >>> 
    >>> Rsamtools itself is implemented on top of Rhtslib. Note that other 
    >>> Bioconductor packages (e.g. DiffBind, deepSNV, BitSeq, qrqc, QuasR, 
    >>> seqbias, TransView, etc...) use Rhtslib internally to implement 
features 
    >>> not implemented in Rsamtools.
    >>> 
    >>> H.
    >>> 
    >>> On 8/23/19 11:05, Jonathon Hill wrote:
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>> 
    >>>> I am working through the process of submitting a new package 
(MMAPPR2). We are having a problem with the build failing, because our package 
requires Samtools installed. We cannot use Rsamtools, as we depend on features 
not implemented in the package. How do we resolve the issue? What is the policy 
for system dependencies? We have samtools listed in the DESCRIPTION and 
installation instructions in our README, but I am sure that is not enough to 
get it installed on the Build and Check servers.
    >>>> 
    >>>> Thanks,
    >>>> 
    >>>> Jonathon Hill
    >>>> 
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