Given this is a prepaid service, I find it difficult to disagree with the
actions taken by Unlimitel. This is very consistent with a prepaid business
model and seems like a very reasonable response to a declined credit card
payment.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephan Monette [mailto:monet...@unlimitel.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:10 PM
To: Kovalenko, Alex
Cc: asterisk biz
Subject: Re: [biz] Unlimitel

Alex,

Unlimitel sells a prepaid service and it works exactly like a prepaid
calling card service. If the prepaid account is empty, the service is
suspended. Most VoIP provider runs their prepaid service this way. There's
no credit allowed for any customers using this business model.

But Unlimitel does allow 24 hours for customers to fix issues with credit
card payments (which you already got since you receive the notice
yesterday). Prepaid calling card companies do not allow this 24hours grace.
We provide this 24 hours grace at our own expense and risk. Everyone knows a
customer can run an hefty bill in 24 hours using VoIP, but we do this for
our customers.

In cases where customers lost their credit card, our billing rep. always
suggest to go and purchase a prepaid credit card from your local corner
store in order to fix your payment issue in the short term. The prepaid
credit card is very useful in situations like yours and will avoid service
suspension.

Our billing department also offer to accept payment from another person's
credit card and this was also communicated to you.

But if you choose not to purchase a prepaid credit card or use someone
else's credit card to fix this issue, this is your call and you will have to
deal with the consequences. This is just unfortunate that you use this forum
to complain about your credit card issue where Unlimitel offered you
temporary solutions in the short term to avoid any problems.

I'm sure you run your business the exact same way. You do not ship any
products to any customers (regardless of their purchase volume) if the
payment is rejected on the credit card, do you? I purchase products from
your company any other businesses on this forum and you shipped it after the
payment on my credit card was confirmed and this is what I expected, nothing
less.

Let's educate everyone on this forum. Here's why VoIP providers are using
the PrePaid business model (not just Unlimitel, but almost every VoIP
provider in Canada):

1- Between 6% to 10% of accounts do not get paid when you offer post paid
services or credit to business customers. So for a $5Millions company (not
Unlimitel case by the way!) this represents up to $500,000 in lost net
revenues per year.

2- PrePaid services do not require full time staff to handle payments. Again
for a $5Millions company, this would require about 5 full time staff at an
average of $40k/employee for a total of $200k/year plus real estate space,
computers,...

3- PrePaid services are usually fully automated. But for a post paid
service, the payment process is manual. We also have to factor in the human
error factor in a few transactions that can run your accountant crazy!
There's also the bank fees to deposit all the customer's cheques. Bank fees
will also increase your billing cost. With prepaid credit card, the payments
are deposit into the business account daily as one payment which reduces the
bank fees a lot.

Billing services can cost as much as 15%to 20% of the service in some
situation.

With PrePaid services, the customer ends up saving a lot of money, but they
have to make sure they have a valid credit card with their provider at all
time.

Cheers.

Stephan Monette
Unlimitel Inc.

Tel.: 1-877-464-6638
Fax: (613) 482-1077





On 2010-08-03, at 11:38 AM, Kovalenko, Alex wrote:

> Unlimitel is definitely a great company to purchase your VoIP lines from.
> 
> However they called me today to inform me that our lines will be cut if we
> do not pay our $50 bill which has been outstanding for only few days
> immediately by 4pm today. I have explained that my wallet was stolen at
the
> gym last week and I should be able to provide them with a new card over
the
> next few days (it takes Mastercard - 4-5 business days to get the
> replacement card over). However, Helene told me that they do not really
care
> what happened and will cut if not received by 4pm. (Go get prepaid credit
> card - she told me.)
> 
> This is very unfortunate - as I have been with them over 5 years, spent
> thousands of dollars and at www.VoIPGizmos.ca have recommended them to
> dozens of other businesses. Stephane - not very cool way to run your
> business.
> 
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