On 09.09.2002 at 9:35 pm -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(quoted in full since this was probably destined for the list, not just
to me):

>Well, you have Microsoft and Verisign with vested interests in you not doing 
>that so good luck.
>
>Basically it's an extorsion racket for end users not to get those (scary) 
>popup messages that play on their fears of Internet security.   Internet 
>Explorer has come to completely dominate the browser (and I do admit that it 
>is better than any other option currently available) so the bully on the 
>block is pretty much entrenched.  At least with Tucows entering the picture 
>on the certs there is (a little) more choice involved but overall the
picture 
>sucks big time.

I agree with you regarding IE's dominance and ability.

However... I'm running IE 5.2.1 (Mac OS X), and in my prefs -> security -
> certificates list, I count about 8 dozen certificates provided by
default.  By manual inspection, there appear to be about THREE DOZEN
DISTINCT ORGANIZATIONS represented among those certificate authorities.

Is Microsoft in collusion with these dozens of organizations in order to
facilitate an old boys' club of bilking every secure site on the Internet?

Frankly, the thing that amazes me most about this is that nobody has
raised a stink before.  Or at least, one stinky or pervasive enough that
I've read about.  Certainly nothing that 99% of the browser-using public
is remotely aware of.  Why does nobody seem to care; do the millions of
https-based secure web site operators in the world not have a collective
voice large enough?  I suppose it's easier just to fork over the cash?

Given that https has been around for I-don't-know-how-long, why is there
no Free solution to this problem?  Certainly there is no technical
limitation here, only politico-economic.

-ben

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