I had to delete his message real quick before I said something I regretted, I 
was sitting on my hands trying not to type. 
I don't have 40 acres at my disposal either. For all the good it would do in 
the wintertime anyway! *Everyone had to hay & grain them in the winter-
that's not abuse-so why would it be abuse to have to supplement in the summer 
with hay, grain & alfalfa?
Mitzi
Oklahoma


On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:54:50 -0600, Johnson, Oneta wrote:

>Now watch what is said here.  I have very little land but I have no problems 
>with the horses or sheep.  They have vet care, are checked everyday for 
problems and I raise and show some top horses.  You can not put the amount of 
land to blame on problems. It is just commone sense and good 
houskeeping.  Not everyone one has a lot of land.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:42 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Herman's message asking for help


>In a message dated 12/28/2004 11:04:07 AM  Central Standard Time, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I urge people to be  responsible breeders and learn as much as you can about 
>any animal you raise  BEFORE you bring it home. BE PREPARED for birthing 
>issues. 
>Carol
>I  agreed with your response and still do.  I guess I was making the same  
>point that you were.   Many times I see folks around here that move  out on 5 
>acres then cannot pay for the land so they sell off half of it and  still keep 
>the same amount of animals.  I don't see how any halfway  rational thinking 
>person can believe that 2.5 acres will support 3 horses, a  calf ( for beef) 
>and 
>5 goats without carrying feed to them 24 hours a day.   I have bought horses 
>from these folks just to keep them from dying.  This  is not just one family 
>around here, there are many....   I have 27  blackbellies now, and 2 donkeys.  
>They were grazing on 6 acres of pasture  and 5 acres of Barley that was 6 
>inches tall.  Within a month, they had the  Barley grubbed down.  These are 
>well 
>fed animals all the time.  I was  fortunate that I only had to move the 
>electric 
>fence over, but not everyone has  40 acres of green forage at their disposal. 

>When I see animals longing  for the green forage over their fence when they 
>are being fed only hay or grain,  To me, that is animal abuse.  

>Of course I should mention that my  veterinarian ,my best friend, says that 
>there was never an undernourished animal  around my place.   Most of the time 
>they too fat.    

>I am rambling, just wanted to say I agreed, but wanted to give the  animals a 
>chance.  Too many have touted the feed efficiency of Blackbellies  like they 
>talk about their car mileage....

>Nothing takes the place of  good nutrition.  And I would be happy to help 
>anyone on the list with anyu  problems, but as you stated many times all we 
>get 
>on the first post is "my sheep  is sick"  Perhaps we should have a FAQ list 
>for 
>what to note when posting a  problem or what symptoms to list or history to 
>list before calling the  vet.....   It would help the owner when discussing 
>the 
>problem with  the vet and I know it would help the vet...  My vet always 
>talks with  admiration about having to see a client who knows enough about the 
>animal to  discuss the problems and symptoms.....

>Just my $0.02

>Cecil  Bearden
>Oklahoma  

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