Just to add my thoughts here --
I'm also of the opinion that there's no need to integrate these utilities directly into blackbox -- even as configure options, that starts to get the code distribution getting heavier and heavier, as well as the fact that, with more and more pieces, the whole becomes less modular and more prone to breakage.
At the same time, anyone who's paid any attention to this list knows that, especially with bbkeys, the fact that you have to find programs in multiple places to get keyboard shortcuts and so on can be confusing to some people. I'd say that, most definately, there ought to be a link to the bbkeys source right beneath the blackbox source on the homepage ... with instructions that if you want keyboard shortcuts, you have to install this package.
An automated installer for the popular blackbox tools would be nice (for instance, they all extract into bbtools/(whatever), and then a common bbtools/install script would compile anything in there and install it.) I'm just spouting right there, of course; I don't even know how to set up a proper Makefile, so I don't know the best way to do it.
Aardvark Joe
>From: Joshua Swink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Blackbox Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Blackbox development
>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:55:56 -0700
>
>I find that there are two problems with the current setup - one, that
>all these extra programs (slit, bbpager, bbkeys) must be entered into .xinitrc,
>and two, that they are distributed as separate applications. So if you want
>to construct a really user-friendly desktop with Blackbox, you have to take
>all these steps and download several things. Are user-definable keys such
>a luxury that you have to take all these steps to make it work? (speaking of
>bbkeys.)
>
>I'd suggest that some of these separate programs have existed as a proof
>of concept long enough, and should be integrated into Blackbox proper,
>as configure options if need be.
>
>But more importantly, I think window managers should be interchangeable
>at the drop of a hat (correct me if I'm wrong). And with Blackbox and these
>external goodies like the slit, you have to modify .xinitrc beyond just
>changing the final "exec" line. Adding some sort of "runme" list in
>BB's rc file would fix that, and shouldn't raise any creeping featurism
>fears.
>
>
>--
>Joshua Swink
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:06:42PM +0000, jkennis wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Well, I think intergrating the pager it is not approperiate,
> > but then again I'm not a Blackbox developer. I would rather hear
> > how bbpager should change so it makes most people happy.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:43:50 -0400, Bill Beal said:
> >
> > > Eric Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > > > Eric Hanson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As long as there is a wish list going...
> > > > I wish blackbox could integrate bbpager and a tasklist (or
> > > > the icon menu) into the taskbar. I like black box as lean
> > > > mean window manager but I don't want to run slit or use
> > > > another WM's window tasklist.
> > >
> > > Allow me politely to cancel out Eric's vote for integrating
> > > bbpager into the toolbar (if I understand his request
> > > correctly). I'm not sure exactly how one would practically
> > > squeeze it into such a narrow space, for starters, but of
> > > course the real issue is whether an integrated pager is
> > > something the developer(s) think is appropriate for a
> > > minimalistic WM.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Beal
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.bildo.net/
> > >
> > >
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