Thanks. I am familiar with training and I've been using Quicksilver for years so old stuff is pretty well trained. But my files aren't static and I go through this headache everytime.
Like I said, this "orb" was an easy example where Orbis.app showed up within the first page. But let's say I want to train "or" to launch it (we generally want the shortest shortcut possible) or even just "o", these are where this gets really frustrating because you have to go on a needle in a haystack chase to get the first round of training. "Orbis.app" shows up pages and pages down my results with these, 99% of which don't start with O or OR, most don't even have an adjacent O and R. I mean look at the first result for "OR" for a better example. The first result is /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app There is absolutely no way you can logically say that's a better match for "or" than /Applications/Orbis.app Orbis has the o and r in a better position in the file name, a better position in the total file path, is equal in the file path minus file name, and has a higher directory heirarchy position. And this is with the "better" Textstarter string ranker. What system of sorting logic could possibly put Activity Monitor.app before Orbis.app? The only way Activity Monitor.app is superior is if you read the file name backwards! Is that what it's doing? And if so that's a clear bug in the sorting system. The default string ranker puts this folder first: ~Library/Application Support/Corel Again, what crazy logic makes that a better match than /Applications/Orbis.app? I understand training and have been using Quicksilver since the Jitkoff days, but to train you need to be able to reasonably find the item the first time around in catalogs that can contain hundreds or thousands of items. "or" to find /Applications/Orbis.app should be an easy match, it turns into a huge hassle when I want to find something that's actually hard which is why I'm making this post. I've always used Quicksilver a fraction of as much as I should because of this and assumed the string ranker was going to be improved but 8 years later it definitely hasn't (though I will say Textstart is an improvement and I don't understand why it's not the default until a better one can be made). On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 7:19:37 PM UTC-4, Rob McBroom wrote: > > On 10 Apr 2015, at 15:25, random1destiny wrote: > > This is one thing that's always annoyed me with Quicksilver. I often get > the most ridiculous results when Quicksilver searches the entire path > instead of just the file name. > > It doesn’t search the entire path. > > For example, attached is one search where I type "ORB" looking for > /Applications/Orbis.app. Pretty simple, right, but I get a whole bunch of > much weaker matches I'm guessing because the "o" "r" and "b" can be found > in the full paths before the Orbis.app even though their file names are so > obviously less relevant. > > Look closer. o, r, and b can all be found in the last path component (the > file or folder’s name). > > Anyone can see this is not right. And this is one of the better examples, > often I have to scroll pages and pages because of this rule but I can't > show that in a screenshot. > > If you type “orb” then select and open Obris.app once (*maybe* twice), > the next time you type “orb”, it will be the first result. Ranks are pretty > meaningless in a fresh installation, but it will learn. > > In fact, I have “Show other results” set to “Never” because the first > result is almost always the correct thing and I don’t want to see the other > noise. If not, I can hit ↓ for more results. > > I also use the TextStart ranker because it tends to be more in line with > how my brain abbreviates things. > > So, the short answer is just “Use it for a while”. The things you actually > care about will get higher in the rankings pretty quickly. > > -- > Rob McBroom > http://www.skurfer.com/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quicksilver" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/blacktree-quicksilver. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
