On 02/10/2014 09:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> Why does systemd need D-Bus?  Because they pulled in login?  That's
> seems to be a circular argument to me.
>
> If you are creating a server with Apache, php, and mariadb or mysql,
> where the only access is via a web browser or ssh, why do you need D-Bus
> at all?

Seems like an obsession with APIs to me. In systemd everything is an API 
as opposed to everything is a file in Unix.

> As an example, anduin has been up 399 days and does not use D-Bus at
> all.
>
> What advantages would systemd give?  I can tell you the disadvantages:
> less control of what is running.

Well, Lennart Poettering said something like "cgroups are at the center 
of what a modern server needs to do." which is a horrid misunderstanding 
of what an init system really needs to do for servers.

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