On 01-11-2014 20:18, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 12:41:39PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: >> Hi, ĸen, >> >> Sorry for the delay, but I needed time to think about this. It was a >> luck for us, not having updates to be done. >> > Hi Fernando, > > thanks for spending time on this. >>> >>> But there is still a question: network-manager-applet requires >>> libsecret, which brings a runtime dependency for gnome-keyring. I >>> assume that is for gnome-keyring-daemon. Do I have to start that >>> manually ? Does it require the sort of magic incantations which are >>> common with freedesktop packages ?
>> Gnome is an old version, still in /opt. >> >> $ lsof -c nm-applet | grep gnome >> No mention to gnome-keyring: >> >> $ lsof -c nm-applet | grep key >> $ pgrep -l key >> > > That might be because things in gnome have changed - I believe the > whole keyring area is now very different. For the dev i686 system, only trunk gnome packages installed, running LXDE, all by the book, so nm-applet works fine: fernando [ ~ ]$ cat /etc/release 7.6-rc1 fernando [ ~ ]$ pgrep -l nm-applet 6171 nm-applet fernando [ ~ ]$ lsof -c nm-applet | grep gnome fernando [ ~ ]$ lsof -c nm-applet | grep key fernando [ ~ ]$ pgrep -l key > But for my own wifi, using wpa, I am still having to use > wpa_supplicant and `ifup wifi0'. > > If I go into the nm applet, under WiFi Networks the line 'device > not ready' is greyed out. Yes, the same with the my old system for other items, (no WiFi). But if you kill nm-applet and restart with sudo nm-applet (do not use & at the end) then, I think (not sure) that it might not be greyed out anymore. And you can add, edit, remove, etc, connections. > If I use nm-connection-editor, there is partial data for my wifi (I > tried to set up the details, but was apparently unable to save the > passphrase because gnome keyring was not running. What if you run it as root? > Also, even if the wifi interface is not being used by > wpa_supplicant (in other words, I have not brought it up), > NetworkManager appears not to _list_ the available wifi networks. > Now, it is a long time since I had to touch a previous version of NM > on ubuntu, but that used to show the wifi networks - usually between > 4 and 8 here (I think some people turn off their wifi at times - > what a strange idea ;-) I've just tested Lubuntu in the netbook, and nm-applet still shows available wifi networks. Perhaps it would, if nm-applet was restarted by root. > I suspect I will be trying the alternative which Igor pointed to. Please, keep us posted, this is also interesting. >>>>> Got to finish my first backup before I do that, rsync has only been >>>>> running for about thirteen hours so far (using wired eth0 and nfs), >>>>> I expect it will take a lot longer - I seem to have 7.5GB used in >>>>> '/'. :-) >>>> >>> >>> That only took 19 hours after I remembered to renice the rsync >>> processes - laptop disks are slow. >> >> This week, I did a backup that lasted about 9 hours, because the USB >> backup HD was corrupted, and I needed to reformat the partition and copy >> everything there again. But it was 728G of data. > > Wow! That sounds fast to me. Yes. I use rsync to backup, for the same data, syncing took about 3hr48min37s last time it worked fine, no sum check, sizes calculation of backup performed before and after. Most changes are tarballs (BLFS), VM disks (they are all split into files with sizes <= 2GB, so just accessing, will create a new version of all files from a vdisk). For that time above, size changed by 43GB. -- []s, Fernando -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
