Good morning all Do you have to have an external drive for this utility to back up your hard drive? Thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogelio Terrazas" <rogelio.terra...@gmail.com> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > It is the same. I found mine. I beautifully backed up my Hard Drive. All > you need to do is put this file name into your search > Ntbackup.msi > > Used the Advanced Options when your doing your Search. Check all of the > boxes and you'll find it. When you find that file, just hit enter and it'll > install. Your going to be impressed by this feature. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elaine" <elaine.d...@gmail.com> > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > > > > hi Lennie > > > > Rogelio isn't the only one not to have this item in the system restore > > menu. > > > > I don't have a windows CD, my pc didn't come with one. I had to create my > > own restore disks. > > > > so I'm assuming Rogelio's computer is the same as mine. that would > > explain why he cant find this item. > > > > Thanks > > > > Elaine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin...@mchsi.com> > > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > > > > > >> Rogelio, > >> > >> If you have window system backup on your computer, do the following: > >> > >> 1. Enter on the window key > >> > >> 2. Hit the letter P for the program submenu > >> > >> 3. down arrow to the accessory submenu and enter on it > >> > >> 4. Arrow up until you come to system tools and hit enter > >> > >> 5. Arrow up until you find backup and hit enter > >> > >> This will bring up the window system backup. The restore function is not > >> the window restore point. > >> > >> I have window xp home edition and the window system backup was not > >> originally on my computer. I had to get that off my window CD. I had help > >> to retrieve the program and I cannot remember how it was done. > >> > >> I will be off the computer until tomorrow. Please let me know if I still > >> can help. > >> > >> Lennie > >> > >> At 05:58 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote: > >>>The question is; " How do I get to the Windows Backup Wizard "? > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin...@mchsi.com> > >>>To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:38 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > >>> > >>> > >>>>Rogelio, > >>>> > >>>>I use window system backup, one with the wizard mode for my documents > >>>>and the advanced mode for backing up my C drive. > >>>> > >>>>We will start with my documents. When you start the system backup, the > >>>>following screen is displayed: > >>>> > >>>>Backup or Restore Wizard > >>>>Welcome to the Backup or > >>>>Restore Wizard > >>>>This wizard helps you back up or restore the files and > >>>>settings on your computer. > >>>>If you prefer, you can switch to Advanced Mode to change the > >>>>settings used for backup or restore. This option is recommended > >>>>for advanced users only. > >>>>Always start in wizard mode > >>>>To continue, click Next. > >>>>< Back Next > Cancel > >>>> > >>>>Starting in wizard mode, I enter on the next button. > >>>> > >>>>The following screen is displayed: > >>>> > >>>>Backup or Restore Wizard > >>>>Backup or Restore > >>>>You can back up files and settings, or restore them from a previous > >>>>backup. > >>>>What do you want to do? > >>>>Back up files and settings > >>>>Restore files and settings > >>>>< Back Next > Cancel > >>>> > >>>>I choose the backup radio button and then enter on the next button. > >>>> > >>>>The next screen is displayed: > >>>> > >>>>Backup or Restore Wizard > >>>>What to Back Up > >>>>You can specify the items you want to back up. > >>>>What do you want to back up? > >>>>My documents and settings > >>>>Includes the My Documents folder, plus your Favorites, desktop, and > >>>>cookies. > >>>>Everyone's documents and settings > >>>>Includes every user's My Documents folder, plus their Favorites, > >>>>desktop, and > >>>>cookies. > >>>>All information on this computer > >>>>Includes all data on this computer, and creates a system recovery disk > >>>>that > >>>>can be used to restore Windows in the case of a major failure. > >>>>Let me choose what to back up > >>>>< Back Next > Cancel > >>>> > >>>>The My documents and settings radio button is highlighted which is the > >>>>one that I want and then I enter on the next button. > >>>> > >>>>I then choose where I want to backup my files. In my case it is the > >>>>drive J which is my external hard drive. When I typed my file name for > >>>>the backup, I then enter on the next button. See below: > >>>> > >>>>Backup or Restore Wizard > >>>>Backup Type, Destination, and Name > >>>>Your files and settings are stored in the destination you specify. > >>>>Select the backup type: > >>>>File > >>>>Choose a place to save your backup: > >>>>J:\ Browse... > >>>>Type a name for this backup: > >>>>My Documents Backup 2009-04-22 > >>>>< Back Next > Cancel > >>>> > >>>>The next screen is the final one before you begin the backup of my > >>>>documents. See below: > >>>> > >>>>Backup or Restore Wizard > >>>>Completing the Backup or > >>>>Restore Wizard > >>>>You have created the following backup settings: > >>>>Name: J:\My Documents Backup 2009-04-22.bkf > >>>>Description: Set created 4/22/2009 at 5:29 PM > >>>>Contents: My documents and settings > >>>>Location: File > >>>>To close this wizard and start the backup, click Finish. > >>>>To specify additional backup options, Advanced...click Advanced. > >>>>< Back Finish Cancel > >>>> > >>>>Once you start the backup by entering on the finish button, the backup > >>>>will start. The number of directories and files determines how long the > >>>>backup will take. In my case, it takes about 14 minutes. > >>>> > >>>>I hope that this helps you to do a backup of my documents. Let me know > >>>>if I can help you further. I will follow with a second e-mail on how to > >>>>backup your C drive. > >>>> > >>>>Lennie > >>>>At 05:07 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote: > >>>>>Could you tell me how to use Windows System Backup? I think that is > >>>>>the one I am looking for. > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Rinaldi" > >>>>><merlin...@mchsi.com> > >>>>>To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:01 PM > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Don, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Do you happen to know what is the difference between an image copy and > >>>>>>window system backup? I usually run the window system backup twice a > >>>>>>month and I also use it to backup my documents at least weekly. I have > >>>>>>two external hard drive that I make my backups so if one fails, the > >>>>>>other one would be available. It is like having a backup for a backup. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I have done some restore from the window system backup mainly for my > >>>>>>personal files, but I never have to > >>>>>>use it to restore my computer. In fact, if I have to I wouldn't know > >>>>>>how to bring my computer back to the point of the most recent backup. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I also have Karen's replicator which use for my Word and Excel files. > >>>>>>I usually do a backup whenever I do a lot of changes to my files. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Anyway, I am curious what you or anyone else on the list thinks of > >>>>>>using window system backup. I listened to David's tutorial on image > >>>>>>copy and I have been toying around with the idea to purchase the > >>>>>>software and do an image copy of my computer. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks for any comments, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Lennie > >>>>>> > >>>>>>At 04:05 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote: > >>>>>>>To be completely safe, you should backup your personal data files on > >>>>>>>a regular basis AND also have a baseline full image of your entire > >>>>>>>hard disk. The frequency of backing up your personal files depends on > >>>>>>>how often the data changes and its importance. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I use Karen's Replicator to backup my personal files each night. It > >>>>>>>is free and is located on the Programs page. Each night I copy my > >>>>>>>JAWS scripts directories to my Documents folder, copy a folder of > >>>>>>>downloads and archives, my Documents folder, and my mail directories > >>>>>>>to another computer in our house. Of course, you could also backup > >>>>>>>to an external hard drive or an on-line storage service. On-line > >>>>>>>storage services are a great idea for dependable storage that is off > >>>>>>>site in case off a fire or a natural disaster. It might be a good > >>>>>>>idea to keep of your valuable data for safety, even if you make a > >>>>>>>local copy. This storage is normally encrypted automatically. Many > >>>>>>>services are free for a limited amount of storage and a monthly fee > >>>>>>>for more or unlimited storage. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Making a complete image copy of the entire hard disk can make > >>>>>>>recovering from a hard disk disaster much easier. You should make an > >>>>>>>image of a baseline system. This ideally would be at a time when > >>>>>>>your computer has all of your desired programs installed and the > >>>>>>>system is stable. With a program like Image for Windows, recovery > >>>>>>>can take less than an hour. That includes all programs and settings > >>>>>>>back exactly as they were at the time the baseline was taken! Then > >>>>>>>you can restore any new personal data from your nightly data backups > >>>>>>>performed with Karen's Replicator. You should only need to make a > >>>>>>>full image backup when their have been significant changes made to > >>>>>>>the system. I anticipate doing this about twice a year. If you like > >>>>>>>to experiment with new software, it would be a great idea to make a > >>>>>>>baseline before installing the new experimental software. Then you > >>>>>>>don't have to worry too much about destroying your configuration, > >>>>>>>since it easily can be rolled back in less than an hour. Some > >>>>>>>software like from GiveAwayOfTheDay or in my case my daughter's > >>>>>>>installation of Spore can not just simply be installed again. An > >>>>>>>image restore eliminates these issues. It also is the best way to get > >>>>>>>rid of nasty Spyware and Viruses that fight from being removed. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Personally, I have been putting this off for years! There is no > >>>>>>>longer any good reasons not to backup anymore with external drives > >>>>>>>being so cheap. It is fairly easy to find a 1 Terabyte external hard > >>>>>>>disk for less than $100. Normally, creating the image is easy. > >>>>>>>Traditionally, the recovery process can be troublesome for a blind > >>>>>>>person. The recovery from the backup image files, like an external > >>>>>>>hard disk, to your internal hard drive requires booting from another > >>>>>>>source, like DOS from a CD. Most of the time there is no speech > >>>>>>>available for this process. Dave has a very good tutorial for using > >>>>>>>Image for Windows for making there image and performing the recovery > >>>>>>>process on the website. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I purchased Image for Windows this week. It includes a copy of Image > >>>>>>>for DOS and Image for Linux. The recent Image for Linux includes a > >>>>>>>utility to create a Recovery CD that has SpeakUp built into its Linux > >>>>>>>kernel. The CD is used to boot from in case of disaster. With a > >>>>>>>boot parameter to enable the speech at startup the recovery process > >>>>>>>can be accomplished through an easy to use program which is very > >>>>>>>similar to the Windows program where the image was created. It is > >>>>>>>possible to customize the Recovery CD to make the speech automatic on > >>>>>>>boot. I am currently playing with this and merging Image for Linux > >>>>>>>with Vinux. Vinux is an amazing distribution of Linux. Specifically > >>>>>>>Vinux is a customized distribution of Ubuntu that is preconfigured > >>>>>>>for the blind and visually impaired. I view this as a major > >>>>>>>breakthrough! Many PC experts have stated vigorously that the newest > >>>>>>>Ubuntu is the first distribution of Linux where it is a viable > >>>>>>>replacement for Windows! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>An ISO file of a complete Vinux Live CD can be downloaded at the > >>>>>>>address below. If you burn this to a disk, you can boot and run this > >>>>>>>Version of Linux with speech and magnification automatically enabled > >>>>>>>without installing any software on your hard drive and test it out. > >>>>>>>It also includes a utility to install a copy to a hard disk, USB > >>>>>>>drive, or make a customized CD/DVD. > >>>>>>> http://vinux.org.uk/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Remember that backing up will save a tremendous amount of headaches > >>>>>>>later! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Don Marang > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Job Hunter" > >>>>>>><jobhun...@box547.com> > >>>>>>>To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:05 AM > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Try Image for Windows at www.terabyteunlimited.com. > >>>>>>>>Very good program and works well with Jaws. > >>>>>>>>John > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogelio Terrazas" > >>>>>>>><rogelio.terra...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:08 AM > >>>>>>>>Subject: [Blind-Computing] Backing Up Files > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>How can I back up all my files in my C drive? In case I ever have > >>>>>>>>>to reinstall my computer. Thanks, any help would be greatly > >>>>>>>>>appreciated. > >>>>>>>>>rogelio.terra...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > >>>>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>>>Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > >>>>>>>>>http://www.blind-computing.com > >>>>>>>>>Address for the list archives: > >>>>>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > >>>>>>>>>To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>>blind-computing@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > >>>>>>>>>blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>>>For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the > >>>>>>>>>subject > >>>>>>>>>or body of a blank message to: > >>>>>>>>>blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>>>Use the following address in order to contact the management team > >>>>>>>>>blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>>>If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > >>>>>>>>>following 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>>>>>>>>jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > >>>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > >>>>>>>http://www.blind-computing.com > >>>>>>>Address for the list archives: > >>>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > >>>>>>>To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>>blind-computing@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > >>>>>>>blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the > >>>>>>>subject > >>>>>>>or body of a blank message to: > >>>>>>>blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>Use the following address in order to contact the management team > >>>>>>>blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>>If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > >>>>>>>following address: > >>>>>>>jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > >>>>>>http://www.jaws-users.com > >>>>>>Visit the Blind Computing home page at: > >>>>>>http://www.blind-computing.com > >>>>>>Address for the list archives: > >>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/blind-computing@jaws-users.com/ > >>>>>>To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>blind-computing@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > >>>>>>blind-computing-le...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the > >>>>>>subject > >>>>>>or body of a blank message to: > >>>>>>blind-computing-requ...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>Use the following address in order to contact the management team > >>>>>>blind-computing-ow...@jaws-users.com > >>>>>>If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the > >>>>>>following address: > >>>>>>jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: > 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