It can be done. Realistically though that is what the insert f4 command is
for. Also Jaws reads internet pages sideways as it were left to right. I do
know it can be changed to be more like up and down but it has been a long
time since I knew how to or bothered to. 

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:46 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7

I don't understand how anybody with sight can realistically use JAWS.  
Most users primarily use the mouse, and causes all sorts of difficulties 
as JAWS constantly takes control of the focus.  Browsing the web is 
probably the worst.  My now grown children have never been able to use 
my computer with JAWS running.  Furthermore, I can not even install JAWS 
on their computers because some of their games do not work with the JAWS 
display drivers installed.

*Don Marang*
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any 
real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I 
am working on things that matter.
-- Dean Kamen

On 7/7/2011 1:29 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
> I pretty much only turn off jaws etc. if the person wants to use 
> internet explorer etc. since it will interfere with keystrokes, etc., 
> but aside from that, if they want to use my computer, bummer if they 
> don't want to hear it jabbering away...<smile>
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROSEMARIE CHAVARRIA" 
> <knitqueen2...@verizon.net>
> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7
>
>
>> Hi, Jacob,
>>
>> The only sighted nephew who doesn't turn off my screen reader is 
>> Lucas. He always tells me what's going on but my other nephew Dave 
>> never did. I don't ask Dave to fix any computer problem I might have 
>> anymore. I have things set up to my liking now so everything works 
>> great.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" 
>> <jac...@mailzone.co.za>
>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7
>>
>>
>>> Just don't let them turn off screen reader while you're 
>>> nearby...<smile>
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROSEMARIE CHAVARRIA" 
>>> <knitqueen2...@verizon.net>
>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, John,
>>>>
>>>> I don't blame you for being careful when it comes to letting just 
>>>> anybody use your computer. Sometimes you even have to be careful 
>>>> with some family members. One time I had a sighted nephew work on 
>>>> my computer and when I asked him what he was doing, he wouldn't 
>>>> tell me. He never put porn sites on my computer or anything like 
>>>> that but it still bugs me when they don't tell you what they're doing.
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Justice" 
>>>> <john_just...@verizon.net>
>>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A funny computer related incident occurred when I let a so-called 
>>>>> friend use
>>>>> my computer to check his e-mail.
>>>>> I'm mentioning this because it could easily happen to anyone using a
>>>>> computer,  who is blind.
>>>>> I had a rehearsal and was bringing up the words to a song when my 
>>>>> singer
>>>>> started laughing hysterically.  I asked what was going on and she 
>>>>> told me.
>>>>> After the computer was running for about five minutes, a picture of a
>>>>> woman's breasts appeared with a link below it that said,  "To see 
>>>>> more,
>>>>> click here!"
>>>>> I was very embarrassed to say the least.
>>>>> Apparently, my so-called friend had been visiting one of the X 
>>>>> rated web
>>>>> sites on my computer and picked up some kind of malware.  That is 
>>>>> the very
>>>>> last time I will ever let him use my computer.
>>>>> I scanned the system, performing a full scan which takes hours but 
>>>>> the
>>>>> malware was removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The moral of this story is, be careful who you allow to use your 
>>>>> computer,
>>>>> especially when you can't see what they're doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Justice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
>>>>> WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY
>>>>> PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
>>>>> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Kimberly Qualls
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:54 PM
>>>>> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all of you for your help...The game is gone and I'm much 
>>>>> happier
>>>>> with the youngin...lol...
>>>>> I recently got a new computer, so I imagine you all will get tired of
>>>>> hearing my questions...I have been reading the list for a while 
>>>>> now, and
>>>>> there a LOT of very knowledgable people on here, thank 
>>>>> goodness...Myself, I
>>>>> am grateful for it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for your time and info
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimberly
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Brad Dunse' [mailto:li...@braddunsemusic.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:12 AM
>>>>> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] startup menue in W7
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming the game itself is actually opening up. To fix this 
>>>>> There's a
>>>>> few solutions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Start Menu:
>>>>>
>>>>> a. Activate the Start button
>>>>> b. then go to All Programs,
>>>>> c. Then go to Startup.
>>>>> d. Right-click the game in the Startup folder e. Select Delete to 
>>>>> remove it
>>>>> from the Startup folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. MSCONFIG Settings:
>>>>>
>>>>> a. Hold the Windows key and press R to open the Run window.
>>>>> b. Type "msconfig" and press "Enter".
>>>>> c. Click the "Startup" tab.
>>>>> d. Uncheck any startup program you don't want to run during startup.
>>>>> e. Click "OK".
>>>>>
>>>>> You can then choose to restart your computer immediately or later.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. The Program Itself:
>>>>>
>>>>> a. Either you or your  youngin' open the program you wish to 
>>>>> disable from
>>>>> running at startup.
>>>>> b/ Look for its Options or Preferences.
>>>>> c. Browse through these options for an option to "Run Program at 
>>>>> Startup."
>>>>> Disable it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/5/2011  11:45 PM Kimberly Qualls said...
>>>>>> My son has been on my user account and now I have a game that 
>>>>>> comes up
>>>>>> everytime I turn the computer on.and I assume, then, that it is 
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> startup menue.I have tried looking it up in Windows Help, but no
>>>>>> joy.Can anyone tell me how I can get rid of this.I'm having to 
>>>>>> turn it
>>>>>> off, EVERY time I turn on my machine.Any help would probably shorten
>>>>>> his grounding time..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kimberly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Dunse
>>>>>
>>>>>   He who angers you controls you -- Proverbs
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.braddunsemusic.com
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/braddunse
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/braddunse
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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