Hi Madison, I agree with you but, yet disagree! As I stated earlier, people like getting advice / help from others who have experienced the same or similar problems. Too many times doing searches gives you so many options that it can leave you with your head spinning! As for dragging others into help related questions, everyone offers their help, noone is dragged in! As for the question I originally posted to the list, this person needed the help & I didn't have an answer for them, not ever having experienced this problem or similar problems & I didn't have the time to search for it at the moment so, I was guilty of using the list to help another! As it turned out, when I had the time I Tandemed up with the person & got the problem resolved. Take care. Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: Madison Espinoza To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Flash & FireFox I'm sorry Mike. I guess you're right in this instance. Its just that I find it a bit selfish that very often listers offer to help their friends then come post questions on these lists essentially turning everyone into their tech support department when he list never offered to help that unknown family member. Its one thing when a lister nees help, but its an entirely different thing when list members volunteer this list to fix their friend's computers. Also, even though your friend is not very knowledgeable about computers or Google searches, you are, so if you offer to help it isn't fair we all get dragged into this. I do agree with you on your point that if all knew how to use Google we would not need these less. These lists seem to be essential in the blind community because for the vast number of questions, they can indeed be answered very quickly with a Google search. It appears that blind folk like the notion of being a part of a group, so they spend los of time on these lists. I signed up thinking I was an average computer user and hoping to learn some new stuff, but it appears I'm answering more questions than increasing my computer related knowledge. Just my thoughts. -M W7HP32bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Flash & FireFox > Hi Madison, > > That is not true! Google is not always someone's friend & in this case > not! > This person doesn't need the added hassle of the extra pressure of trying > to > figure this thing out. I agree with you that Google has it's place but, > like most people, this person would rather have people inter-action. > After > all, if everyone depended on Google, we wouldn't need these lists', would > we?! I hope this message doesn't sound harsh, because I don't mean it > that > way, I just am trying to make the point that most people aren't > profficient > with searching the internet & prefer communicating with others who have > experience or knowledge of the problems they are having at the moment. > Take > care. > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Madison Espinoza > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Flash & FireFox > > > HI Mike, > > I'm pretty certain that just about any question your friend wants to know > about firefox can be answered by by running even the simplest of Google > searches. I hink a better way to help your friend is by teaching that > friend > how to run good Google searches. :) HTH. > > -M > W7HP32bit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69ma...@charter.net> > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Flash & FireFox > > > > Hi Deb, > > > > Thank you very much for this information. I had no idea that FireFox > uses > > a > > different Flash Player. This person that is having the problem may not > > know > > this either so, I'll let them know. Thanks again, take care. > > Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Deb Caldbeck > > To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Flash & FireFox > > > > > > Hi Mike, I don't know too much about this, I've just read a little > bit. > > It > > is my understanding that Firefox uses a different flash than I.e.I > have > > used > > the Ninite installer, for FF, and it says the install was successful. > I > > have Windows XP SP3, JAWS 12. Besides that, I have no further > > information. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com > > [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike & > > Barbara > > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:05 AM > > To: Blind Computing > > Subject: [Blind-Computing] Flash & FireFox > > > > Hi All, > > > > I have been reading about people having problems installing Flash > Player > > into Firefox. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of such a > > problem? > > > > If so, would you please share? I am trying to find the reason / fix > for > > installing it for a fellow computer abuser. As of the moment, I don't > > what > > operating system he is running. 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