My biggest issues are lack of cross-platform, lack of environmental effects, 
and no way to do any sort of visual UI. That’s been an issue in Brain Station 
unfortunately.
This is the problem when you get too comfortable with a scripting language like 
what was stated earlier. You don’t want to learn anything else.



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From: Damien Sykes
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:39 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games

Hi Justin,
Indeed there are workarounds for these issues, but they are trivial compared 
to some of the bigger limitations. No 3d. No audio effects (filtering, 
reverb etc). Not cross-platform. Can't really do anything with binary data 
unless you do all the calculations and conversions yourself. Tantrums from 
the garbage collector from time to time, which of course will reduce 
performance. No real way of totally resetting the state of execution. Of 
course you can reset all the variables, but the call stack will still show a 
call to reset...
The binary data and reset state aren't big showstoppers for me. Even the 
cross platform isn't a big deal for me. I only ever use Windows for my main 
work, only ever use Linux for server admin through SSH and I don't see 
myself getting a mac or phone anytime soon. But performance is definitely 
important in any product, and since I'm seeing more and more games make use 
of 3d audio and environmental effects, if I made another game I'd want to be 
able to use that.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Jones
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:11 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games

One example of this sort of limitation is that BGT will only allow for
the reading of string data types from a file and nothing else. For
example, if you tell BGT to output a series of numbers into a text
file, it does this just fine, but if you try to read those numbers
back into a piece of code as integers, i.e. assigning the values to an
integer data type, BGT kicks back an error. Of course, there is a
work-around for this, but you have to use the string conversion
functions to convert a string data type to an integer data type. This
is an odd limitation, considering that the other programming languages
I've worked with in the past do not have this problem.

Another example of a limitation for BGT is data validation. If you
were to have the user input a number, there is no built-in
functionality for the input box function to perform data validation.
Again, there are work-arounds for this, but this ought to have been
something that is a part of the input box function.

I freely admit that I could be wrong concerning both of these examples.

On 12/18/17, Liam Erven <liamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It’s still a scripting language by definition. It’s good for games, but 
> not
> much else. Also has several limitations which could be problematic.
>
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>
> From: Josh Kennedy
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 6:36 AM
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
>
> Sam tupy’s elaborate survive the wild game was written entirely in bgt.
>
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> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: Justin Jones
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 07:31
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
>
> So long as you understand that BGT isn't a real programming language,
> as it falls under scripting.
>
> It's not a bad start though, as it can do plenty of cool things and
> also serves as an intro to game programming, but it is only an intro.
>
>
>
> On 12/17/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Try the free bgt toolkit. Free blind game makers toolkit. Just google
>> search
>> bgt blind game makers toolkit.
>>
>>
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>> From: Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 20:23
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: [blind-gamers] developing accessible games
>>
>> Hi. maybe this is too technical. But do you know of any blind developers
>> developing an accessible game framework and also an accessible
>> diagramming
>> software. If so, let me know. And also what’s the steps to develop an
>> accessible game say for windows.
>> Thanks.
>> Ps: also for like mobile, ios, android, x box, etc. thanks.
>> Ps: thinking of doing a diploma of interactive gaming from my school,and
>> they have like a few subjects, 3d interactive gaming and designing 3d
>> graphics, etc. any one done these type of courses. Thanks.
>>
>>
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