We agree to disagree. $5 or $10 for all of Marty’s games would be expecting
far too much for your money. My priorities are that I would be willing to go
without a pizza being delivered this month if I could play Blindfold Breakout
from now on for the rest of my life. Pizza next month, another game in April
of May, and so on. Gradually, I would get those I want, and at what I consider
to be a fair price each.
Have you tried Audio Rally Racing and the similar Motocross Championchip games
for iDevices? If so, what do you think of them? I feel that they are worth
the $15 I paid for each.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 5:25 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: in defense of the Blindfold series - Re: [blind-gamers] Play
GoldGun Episode 1 for Free
You wrote:
Response: I am glad that there are so many of them. If you don’t like them,
skip them. There are, however, people who get a lot of fun from the variety of
games available. Do you have the same complaint about Jim Kitchen’s set of
games? I say, the wider the selection, the better. There are a lot of blind
gamers who still feel that there are not enough
accessible games. I am one of them.
My Response: The difference is that Jim Kitchens games have a main menu and you
can now download them all in one shot - thus not requiring 50 plus listed
programs to scroll through. They're also free to play, which is a pretty key
point to make here - blindfold games essentially requires you to pay to play.
Sure, it looks free, but that price increases exponentially over time. Jim
Kitchen's games were also not required to adhere to guidelines set out - nor
did he play up the blind card like Marty did - when told by apple to make his
games have a centralized main menu in one app - or at least be categorized
better, and this is by far my biggest issue and why I refuse to put money in
his pockets.
Regarding the more audiogames point, I couldn't agree more with you. However
there is a difference between being honest and making 70 plus games ((((and
most hardly able to be played unless money is spent). When all is said and
done, why not make a monthly subscription for unlimited coins throughout all
games? I'd more than happily pay that, it is a revenue that can only increase
over time. But what do I know?
Response: $5 or $10 for the entire set?? I would say that you are just the
opposite of what you think of Marty’s prices. You are insanely stingy, wanting
to spend far less than they are worth. In actuality, Marty got the opinions of
beta testers, of which there are quite a number, as to what a fair price would
be for each game. And here is a key point; the games are sold separately
rather than a single package. This actually kept the price down. If you buy
the full package for one game, the price is fair. You choose which one or ones
you like, and pay a fair price for each. Your complaint would fall on deaf
ears if a mainstream company produced a new version of a popular game once a
year over a 10 year period and you griped about the cost of a set containing
all 10 fairly priced individual games. You are expecting Marty to offer over
70 games for what a single low priced game would cost. In short, this is
totally ridiculous on your part.
Response: RS games does not have 70 games. It has at most 25 - 30. The client
is free on the pc. You failed to mention that. If a mainstream company released
a game that was free, a free version would come out for a mobile device. If the
game was paid to begin with, a much discounted version for existing customers
would likely be available for purchase. I don't mind paying a price for the
programming costs - nothing is free - but I fail to see how this price scheme
benefits the consumer who wants all games. It doesn't appear to be very
discounted - again, I'd have less of an issue if it were.
I suppose I'm just not a fan of the company and the way that he conducts
business. I more than happily bought a hero's call, for example - and despite
the company being quite up in the air right now, I would do it again. I'll
likely buy golden gun when it is available for purchase. I enjoy supporting
audiogame developers when they're honest, fair, and not playing themselves up
to be the victim.
Again, I have my opinion, you have yours. I'd more than happily pay $40-50 for
a racing game that was in depth had a story (unlockables, realism, etc).
Tyler
On 2019-02-03 4:33 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:
Here is your message, along with why I totally disagree with your statements:
This is almost like the blindfold games (which I still boycott and always
will) for not following apple's guidelines.
Response: If you followed the battle between Marty Schultz and Apple, and
you did so with an open mind, Marty’s reasoning was very sound. In fact, Apple
actually agreed that he was correct and allowed his games to remain available
through the app store.
There are too many blindfold games out there (and all of them basically pay
to play,
Response: I am glad that there are so many of them. If you don’t like them,
skip them. There are, however, people who get a lot of fun from the variety of
games available. Do you have the same complaint about Jim Kitchen’s set of
games? I say, the wider the selection, the better. There are a lot of blind
gamers who still feel that there are not enough accessible games. I am one of
them.
And the amount of money charged to play the entire catalogue of RS games on
an iPhone is unapologetically money hungry. It's free on the computer - I can
understand perhaps $5.00 for the entire set. Even $10.
Response: $5 or $10 for the entire set?? I would say that you are just the
opposite of what you think of Marty’s prices. You are insanely stingy, wanting
to spend far less than they are worth. In actuality, Marty got the opinions of
beta testers, of which there are quite a number, as to what a fair price would
be for each game. And here is a key point; the games are sold separately
rather than a single package. This actually kept the price down. If you buy
the full package for one game, the price is fair. You choose which one or ones
you like, and pay a fair price for each. Your complaint would fall on deaf
ears if a mainstream company produced a new version of a popular game once a
year over a 10 year period and you griped about the cost of a set containing
all 10 fairly priced individual games. You are expecting Marty to offer over
70 games for what a single low priced game would cost. In short, this is
totally ridiculous on your part.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 6:02 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Play GoldGun Episode 1 for Free
Hi,
I seriously have to agree here.
Stop playing the blind card. I'm tired of it. And I'm blind.
We try and tell everyone else to set standards for accessibility. So what's
the trouble with actually getting a logo and title to display on screen? Pretty
hypocritical, don't you think?
This is almost like the blindfold games (which I still boycott and always
will) for not following apple's guidelines. There are too many blindfold games
out there (and all of them basically pay to play, in theory). What is the big
deal about categorizing them? No, we had to play the blind card. And the amount
of money charged to play the entire catalogue of RS games on an iPhone is
unapologetically money hungry. It's free on the computer - I can understand
perhaps $5.00 for the entire set. Even $10.
Anyway, just my $.02, which is probably getting off the topic. I apologize. I
also just had to rant a little there because this is getting ridiculous.
On 2019-02-02 5:51 p.m., marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Eleanor,
Where can I find the games that you made? I got interested to try them.
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter
Em 02/02/2019 20:58, Eleanor escreveu:
Sighted folk (and I am one) frequently play with the sound turned off to
prevent disturbing others that are close by. They would not hear anything and
if they didn't see anything, they would think the computer died or something
like that. I have played audio games, and we produced a number of blind
accessible games, but we wanted everyone to be able to play the games we made.
Having a blank screen would prevent anyone who has sound turned down from
playing because they would not know the game was there.
Eleanor Robinson
7-128 Software
On 2/1/2019 10:50 AM, lori duncan wrote:
That's why I said discrimination, would it kill sighted folks to use
their imaginations and their ears!
On 01/02/2019 11:37, Darren Duff wrote:
Well sure! it might just be an audio game where nothing is happening
on the screen. but you at least need a title and logo. is it really such a big
deal to follow a few simple guidelines folks?
Darren Duff.
Colossians 3:17 And whatever you do or say, do it as a representative of the
Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the Father.
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skype duffman31279On 1/31/2019 4:55 PM, myTrueSound wrote:
Hi
Here David, from myTrueSound. We have faced some issues with the
review team of App Store. For few days they have been demanding more and more
things on our app, asking questions like, the game doesn't work (our answer: it
is an audio game, so nothing happens on the screen, just turn the volume up),
the visuals are not good enough (our answer: it is an audio game and that is
not an important issue, but sure, we will improve the visual aspect of the main
menu), and the last why there is not a back button (our answer: the back button
is implemented with a double tap with two fingers as in screen reader, which is
more handy than a physical back button, but yeah, ok, we will put it).
So all those things have affected the launch day. We are really
sorry about that. We have worked hard to get it done, but as indie developers
and neweys in this field, time took us by surprise. However, we should be up in
App Stores hopefully in 1 or 2 days, if they don't discover any new thing.
Today we were interviewed by the Blind Abilities podcast, so if you want to
listen the whole story, you could listen it there within some few days.
On the mean time, if somebody wants to play it on Android, here is
the link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myTrueSound.GoldGun
Regards
david
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 23:45, lori duncan <lori.dunca...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I don't see it either.
On 31/01/2019 20:22, Alex Stone wrote:
Liam, any idea when this is going to be available in the App
Store? If it is already, I can’t find it.
On 28 Jan 2019, at 11:51, Liam Erven <liamer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes, but it’s not in the app store yet.
From: MariaRosa Chapman
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 5:50 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Play GoldGun Episode 1 for Free
HI.
is the game just called golden gun?
thanks.
Maria
On 28 Jan 2019, at 4:48 am, myTrueSound
<infomytrueso...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello dear friends and audio game players!
Only 4 days left to launch (31st January) and we bring you
good news!
We have decided to give Episode 1 of GoldGun completely for
free, so all of you can enjoy and get a feeling of what is coming next. The
game (read below Disclaimer) can be played on 97 % of working iOS and Android
mobile devices, and will be available on App Store and Google Play. If you
can't find it there, look for the direct link on our website
https://www.mytruesound.com/games which will appear once the game is on the
stores.
Because the game is free, we hope to reach the 10000
downloads goal. This is necessary to show the game industry and some few
investors that there is really huge potential for audiogames. Despite you like
the game or not, if nobody downloads it we won't be able to address to them
that there are millions of people wishing to play audio games.
For more info about the game, read our Press Kit at
https://www.mytruesound.com/presskit
We appreciate you share this info in your social network
and to your friends.
Disclaimer:
1) We are facing some issues with Apple Store we are trying
to solve at the moment. Somebody there basically seems not to understand why an
audiogame doesn't require visuals, or why the menu is so minimalist. We hope
this doesn't affect launch date, but everything now seems too bureaucratic.
Launch on Google Play seems to be problem-free.
2) This is the first episode of the GoldGun game, which is
scheduled to be composed of 6 more episodes. Each episode will be better and
longer than the previous, and have more playable content. Due to the complexity
of this type of game, you should expect next episode to appear within two
months. However, we appreciate if you play this one already, so we can reach
the 10000 downloads goal.
3) This first episode worked for us as a pilot project. It
is a bit short (compared to the future ones) with about 35 minutes game play.
Pilot project means that it helped us to understand better the technology we
use, and to make different tests. That being said, we believe the quality of
many of its parts are not yet where we want them to be. We believe you all
deserve better. We will work hard to improve quality of audio already in the
next episode. We appreciate You are not very hard with us, and provide us with
some time to improve those issues.
4) Next episode has been already written, and the story
improves pretty well. As many of you know, the main character of the game,
Soren, suffered an accident which turned him blind. There is a reason on the
game script to why the police department thinks he might be able to destroy the
GoldGun, but few betatesters appointed that blindness is a topic which should
be avoided on audio games. We understood their point and blindness as a topic
to talk on our game will not be appearing at all on the future episodes. We
hope you all understand we are trying to constantly improve.
If you read until here, then you know most of what we
wanted to tell.
Thanks a lot for liking, sharing, following.
Best regards
The team of myTrueSound working on this game
Mikko Herranen, David Oliva, Jussi Elsilä, Shane Wirkes,
Joshua Kennedy, Maksim Pokrovskii
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