LGTM2 On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, 10:38 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
> O(10) sounds manageable in case we want to change course, so that reduces > the burn-in risk. > Since this is an atypical OT extension, approving it would require 3 LGTMs. > > *LGTM1* to extend experimentation till M95. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 7:09 PM John Delaney <johni...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> Given that this is an x-origin OT, relatively high use might not be the >>> whole picture, so it would be great to know in addition how many individual >>> teams have signed up to use the OT. Is dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? >> >> There are O(10) teams experimenting with the API. >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:25 PM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Discussed at today's API OWNERS, the relatively high use plus the length >>> of the ongoing trial adds a level of concern. Given that this is an >>> x-origin OT, relatively high use might not be the whole picture, so it >>> would be great to know in addition how many individual teams have signed up >>> to use the OT. Is dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-7 John Delaney wrote: >>> >>>> Can you link to previous extension requests? >>>>> >>>> First extension: >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/C0P7ePjITJQ/m/ZYFmn30SDQAJ >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/C0P7ePjITJQ/m/ZYFmn30SDQAJ> >>>> Second extension: >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/xCWP1ltlAgw/m/acwN0GIRBQAJ >>>> >>>> M86 went to stable almost a year ago. What's the plan beyond M94? >>>>> Assuming that the bug is fixed, will the experiment end there? Would you >>>>> be >>>>> able to share learnings from the trial? Are you planning to ship the API >>>>> in >>>>> its current form? >>>> >>>> >>>> We intend to end the experiment in 95. We are currently working on a >>>> number of significant extensions/changes to the API including: aggregate >>>> reports [1], support for views [2], and others. These support use-cases >>>> which are not covered in the currently implemented "Event-level Click" API. >>>> We plan to start a "V2" experiment when this new functionality is available >>>> which we believe will produce new, different insights from developers. We >>>> are not currently planning to ship Attribution Reporting without first >>>> experimenting with those extensions. >>>> >>>> We can certainly share learnings with respect to the "Event-level >>>> Click" API when this initial experiment concludes. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2zA5-TuVSkA/m/GVqUUkhfAwAJ >>>> [2] >>>> https://github.com/WICG/conversion-measurement-api/blob/main/event_attribution_reporting_views.md >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:06 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 12:01 AM John Delaney <johni...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *Contact emails* >>>>>> johni...@chromium.org, csharri...@chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> *Explainer* >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/conversion-measurement-api/blob/main/event_attribution_reporting_clicks.md >>>>>> >>>>>> *Design docs/spec* >>>>>> https://wicg.github.io/conversion-measurement-api/ >>>>>> >>>>>> *Summary* >>>>>> This is a new API for measuring conversions (e.g. purchases) and >>>>>> attributing them to clicked ads, without using cross-site persistent >>>>>> identifiers like third party cookies. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Link to “Intent to Prototype” blink-dev discussion* >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/7B0ldtZR_68/GjLBu0n4DgAJ >>>>>> >>>>>> *Link to “Intent to Experiment” blink-dev discussion* >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/Ib9-tDFitns/Sm9RXTNaBwAJ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can you link to previous extension requests? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Goals for experimentation* >>>>>> For a continuation of the trial, we still hope to see that the >>>>>> measurement data made available through the API produces comparable >>>>>> results >>>>>> to existing click through measurement solutions on the web. >>>>>> >>>>>> We would like to see that Chrome 94 addresses the reporting issue >>>>>> documented here: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/attribution-reporting-api-dev/c/2KKqWG70w7U/m/7M8fWEbmAgAJ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That seems reasonable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Experimental timeline* >>>>>> We'd like to extend the origin trial for one additional milestone, >>>>>> continuing through M94. The experiment has been running since M86. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> M86 went to stable almost a year ago. What's the plan beyond M94? >>>>> Assuming that the bug is fixed, will the experiment end there? Would you >>>>> be >>>>> able to share learnings from the trial? Are you planning to ship the API >>>>> in >>>>> its current form? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *Any risks when the experiment finishes?* >>>>>> This API is only additive and does not affect any existing state. >>>>>> Current conversion measurement solutions will work as expected with and >>>>>> without the API, so we don’t believe there are any risks. >>>>>> >>>>>> All web-visible names of the API were modified in Chrome 92 which >>>>>> mitigated burn in risk as developers needed to update their >>>>>> implementation >>>>>> to continue experimenting. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have previously requested an exception to the .5% page load usage >>>>>> limit for Origin Trials. Page load usage is currently around .92% for the >>>>>> feature. >>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3365 >>>>>> >>>>>> *Reason this experiment is being extended* >>>>>> There are a number of new internal partners experimenting with the >>>>>> API. Chrome 93 has a shorter than normal Stable lifetime, with Stable >>>>>> starting on Aug 31st, and 93 OT tokens expiring on September 14th, only >>>>>> giving two weeks to experiment. We would like to allow a bit longer for >>>>>> experimentation. >>>>>> >>>>>> We recently received some great feedback from a partner touching on >>>>>> data loss due to network errors: >>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/conversion-measurement-api/issues/201. >>>>>> Chrome 94 includes a fix for this issue, which we would like to verify >>>>>> works. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ongoing technical constraints* >>>>>> None. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Will this feature be supported on all five Blink platforms supported >>>>>> by Origin Trials (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, and Android)?* >>>>>> Yes. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Link to entry on the feature dashboard* >>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6412002824028160 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/b863ba43-5b38-40d2-95d2-12f64a10fca7n%40chromium.org >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/b863ba43-5b38-40d2-95d2-12f64a10fca7n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAL5BFfVMWo2TOFBnQpTp4yLcEpLRhCwu0iyJH8dqS66-__RsmA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAL5BFfVMWo2TOFBnQpTp4yLcEpLRhCwu0iyJH8dqS66-__RsmA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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