Thanks - I also don't think there's a lot of value in this particular header being the odd-one-out, just wanted to confirm we're not going to ship "true" first and try to change that to ?1 later (which is always challenging).

On 12/2/21 11:11 AM, Mike West wrote:
I'm not sure it makes sense to introduce a structured header here, given that it's layering on top of CORS headers that I don't think there's substantial interest in changing.

-mike


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 4:55 PM 'Titouan Rigoudy' via blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

    Hi Mike,

    There is no support for structured headers so far, for consistency
    reasons, and there has been no movement to deprecate the "true"
    value for Access-Control-Allow-Credentials. The value of such a
    deprecation seems minimal.

    I could pretty easily add support for the structured "?1" value on
    top of the "true" token for the new
    Access-Control-Allow-Private-Network header, and specify that, but
    I'm not sure it would be terribly useful. Do you think otherwise?

    Cheers,
    Titouan

    On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 4:45 PM Mike Taylor
    <miketa...@chromium.org> wrote:

        Hi Titouan,

        I'm curious what the plan is for structured headers.
        https://github.com/WICG/private-network-access/issues/45 is
        marked as blocked - has there been other progress or thinking
        behind the scenes?

        thanks,
        Mike

        On 11/29/21 10:36 AM, 'Titouan Rigoudy' via blink-dev wrote:


                Contact emails

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                Explainer

        https://github.com/WICG/private-network-access/blob/main/explainer.md


                Specification

        https://wicg.github.io/private-network-access/


                Design docs


        
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FYPIeP90MQ_pQ6UAo0mCB3g2Z_AynfPWHbDnHIST6VI/edit


                Summary

        Sends a CORS preflight request ahead of any private network
        requests for subresources, asking for explicit permission
        from the target server. A private network request is any
        request from a public website to a private IP address or
        localhost, or from a private website (e.g. intranet) to
        localhost. Sending a preflight request mitigates the risk of
        cross-site request forgery attacks against private network
        devices such as routers, which are often not prepared to
        defend against this threat.



                Blink component

        Blink>SecurityFeature>CORS>PrivateNetworkAccess
        
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ESecurityFeature%3ECORS%3EPrivateNetworkAccess>


                TAG review

        https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/572


                TAG review status

        Pending


                Risks



                Interoperability and Compatibility

        The main interoperability risk, as always, is if other
        browser engines do not implement this. Compat risk is
        straightforward: web servers that do not handle the new
        preflight requests will eventually break, once the feature
        ships. The plan to address this is as follows: 1. Send
        preflight request, ignore result, always send actual request.
        Failed preflight requests will result in a warning being
        shown in devtools. 2. Wait for 3 milestones. 3. Gate actual
        request on preflight request success, with deprecation trial
        for developers to buy some more time. 4. End deprecation
        trial 4 milestones later. UseCounters:
        https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3753
        https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3755
        https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3757
        The above measure pages that make at least one private
        network request for which we would now send a preflight request.



        Gecko: Worth prototyping
        (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/143)

        WebKit: No signal
        
(https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-November/032040.html)
        Pending response.

        Web developers: No signals Anecdotal evidence so far suggests
        that most web developers are OK with this new requirement,
        though some do not control the target endpoints and would be
        negatively impacted.

        Other signals:


                Ergonomics

        None.



                Activation

        Gating access to the private network overnight on preflight
        requests would likely result in widespread breakage. This is
        why the plan is to first send requests but not act on their
        result, giving server developers time to implement code
        handling these requests. Deprecation warnings will be
        surfaced in DevTools to alert web/client developers when the
        potential for breakage later on is detected. Enforcement will
        be turned on later (aiming for 3 milestones), along with a
        deprecation trial for impacted web developers to buy
        themselves some more time. Experience suggests a large
        fraction of developers will not notice the advance
        deprecation warnings until things break.



                Security

        This change aims to be security-positive, preventing CSRF
        attacks against soft and juicy targets such as router admin
        interfaces. DNS rebinding threats were of particular concern
        during the design of this feature:
        
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FYPIeP90MQ_pQ6UAo0mCB3g2Z_AynfPWHbDnHIST6VI/edit#heading=h.189j5gnadts9



                Debuggability

        Relevant information (client and resource IP address space)
        is already piped into the DevTools network panel. Deprecation
        warnings and errors will be surfaced in the DevTools issues
        panel explaining the problem when it arises.



                Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
                
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?

        Yes


                DevTrial instructions

        https://github.com/WICG/private-network-access/blob/main/HOWTO.md


                Flag name

        PrivateNetworkAccessRespectPreflightResults


                Requires code in //chrome?

        False


                Tracking bug

        https://crbug.com/591068


                Launch bug

        https://crbug.com/1274149


                Estimated milestones

        DevTrial on desktop     98

        DevTrial on android     98



                Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

        https://chromestatus.com/feature/5737414355058688


                Links to previous Intent discussions

        Intent to prototype:
        
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/PrB0xnNxaHs/m/jeoxvNjXCAAJ


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