Hey Thomas, We don't necessarily need to change the web.dev article at this point, but following up to explore API progress and related enhancements (e.g. Fullscreen Capability Delegation <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/7YkubntWi3Y>) might be valuable to developers. Let's sync up soon.
Thanks, Mike On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 1:25 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > As far as I understand, no developer-facing changes are introduced by this > intent, so the article <https://web.dev/multi-screen-window-placement/> > doesn't > need changing, unless you want to mention feature detection and how this is > in particular *not* detectable. Please advise. > > Cheers, > Tom > > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:35 AM Mike Wasserman <m...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> Contact emails >> >> m...@chromium.org >> >> >> Explainer >> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/window-placement/blob/main/EXPLAINER_initiating_multi_screen_experiences.md >> >> Specification >> >> >> https://github.com/w3c/window-placement/blob/main/EXPLAINER_initiating_multi_screen_experiences.md#spec-changes >> >> Design docs >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RRlGQharWVnmxKTomfKhNiaeE31L7iXHeXVfifOvwJA >> >> Summary >> >> Fullscreen Companion Window allows sites to place fullscreen content and >> a popup window on separate screens from a single user activation. >> >> This is a small requested enhancement of the Multi-Screen Window >> Placement feature: https://chromestatus.com/feature/5252960583942144 >> >> Blink component >> >> Blink>Screen>MultiScreen >> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EScreen%3EMultiScreen> >> >> TAG review >> >> >> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/602#issuecomment-1121694034 >> >> TAG review status >> >> Pending >> >> Risks >> Interoperability and Compatibility >> >> The main risk is that this feature fails to become an interoperable part >> of the web platform if other browsers do not implement it. Scripted >> attempts to open a popup window after requesting fullscreen would likely be >> blocked by user agents that do not implement this feature, even if they >> implement the basic Multi-Screen Window Placement API. >> >> Gecko: No signal ( >> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/636) >> >> WebKit: No signal ( >> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2022-May/032223.html) >> >> Web developers: Positive ( >> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1233970) This >> functionality is requested by a prominent API partner >> >> Ergonomics >> >> There is currently no way to detect feature support before attempted >> usage; see >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RRlGQharWVnmxKTomfKhNiaeE31L7iXHeXVfifOvwJA/edit?pli=1#heading=h.vu2lz7aeddz6 >> >> Activation >> >> Developers can make immediate use of this API enhancement. >> >> Security >> >> This feature was designed from the ground-up to adhere to the strictest >> usable security measures possible, as an incremental enhancement of >> existing web platform APIs. See the design document for details. >> >> WebView application risks >> >> None >> >> Debuggability >> >> Existing mechanisms support debugging fullscreen and popup window open >> requests. >> >> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >> ? >> >> No. An existing automated/manual WPT covers the ability to open >> cross-screen popups <https://wpt.live/window-placement>. We aim to >> extend test coverage for this specific scenario soon < >> https://crbug.com/1323361>. >> >> DevTrial instructions >> >> https://github.com/w3c/window-placement/blob/main/HOWTO.md >> >> Flag name >> >> --enable-blink-features=WindowPlacement >> >> Requires code in //chrome? >> >> True - >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QV4SW4JBG3IyLzaonohUhim7nzncwK4ioop2cgUYevw/edit#gid=0&range=34:34 >> >> Tracking bug >> >> https://crbug.com/1233970 >> >> Launch bug >> >> https://crbug.com/1315615 >> >> Sample links >> >> https://michaelwasserman.github.io/window-placement-demo/ >> >> (See DevTrial instructions) >> >> Estimated milestones >> >> DevTrial on desktop: 102 >> >> Shipping on desktop: 103 >> >> Anticipated spec changes >> >> No changes anticipated that would introduce web compat/interop risk >> >> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >> >> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5173162437246976 >> >> Links to previous Intent discussions >> >> Intents for the Multi-Screen Window Placement API: >> >> - >> >> I2P: < >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/X6rEbWvU7cI> >> - >> >> I2E1: < >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/C6xw8i1ZIdE> >> - >> >> I2E2: < >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jznxQK1U8ZQ> >> - >> >> I2S: < >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/i6Zoc7jU0dM> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAN%2BkdQ4FcB_qto8h5GQrA4_ELUUwsyWWKyR0%3DmPsVxftr1uu2g%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAN%2BkdQ4FcB_qto8h5GQrA4_ELUUwsyWWKyR0%3DmPsVxftr1uu2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > Thomas Steiner, PhD—Developer Relations Engineer (https://blog.tomayac.com > , https://twitter.com/tomayac) > > Google Germany GmbH, ABC-Str. 19, 20354 Hamburg, Germany > Geschäftsführer: Paul Manicle, Liana Sebastian > Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891 > > ----- BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE ----- > Version: GnuPG v2.3.4 (GNU/Linux) > > > iFy0uwAntT0bE3xtRa5AfeCheCkthAtTh3reSabiGbl0ck0fjumBl3DCharaCTersAttH3b0ttom. > hTtPs://xKcd.cOm/1181/ > ----- END PGP SIGNATURE ----- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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