Hi all — I'd just like to share a note of support for this enhancement to the API from Adobe and the Frame.io team. With the multi-screen window placement API, we can give users with multiple monitors the option to put the player on one monitor in full-screen, with media browsing and commenting on another screen. (This could include popups on the non-full-screen monitor as per the enhancement.) For our users, this will be a welcome improvement - especially for editors who are quite accustomed to reserving one monitor for their “program monitor”.
Thanks! Sean On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-7 Mike Wasserman wrote: > Hey Thomas, > > We don't necessarily need to change the web.dev article at this point, > but following up to explore API progress and related enhancements (e.g. > Fullscreen > Capability Delegation > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/7YkubntWi3Y>) > might be valuable to developers. Let's sync up soon. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 1:25 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com> wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> As far as I understand, no developer-facing changes are introduced by >> this intent, so the article >> <https://web.dev/multi-screen-window-placement/> doesn't need changing, >> unless you want to mention feature detection and how this is in particular >> *not* detectable. Please advise. >> >> Cheers, >> Tom >> >> >> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:35 AM Mike Wasserman <m...@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> Contact emails >>> >>> m...@chromium.org >>> >>> >>> Explainer >>> >>> >>> https://github.com/w3c/window-placement/blob/main/EXPLAINER_initiating_multi_screen_experiences.md >>> >>> Specification >>> >>> >>> https://github.com/w3c/window-placement/blob/main/EXPLAINER_initiating_multi_screen_experiences.md#spec-changes >>> >>> Design docs >>> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RRlGQharWVnmxKTomfKhNiaeE31L7iXHeXVfifOvwJA >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> Fullscreen Companion Window allows sites to place fullscreen content and >>> a popup window on separate screens from a single user activation. >>> >>> This is a small requested enhancement of the Multi-Screen Window >>> Placement feature: https://chromestatus.com/feature/5252960583942144 >>> >>> Blink component >>> >>> Blink>Screen>MultiScreen >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EScreen%3EMultiScreen> >>> >>> TAG review >>> >>> >>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/602#issuecomment-1121694034 >>> >>> TAG review status >>> >>> Pending >>> >>> Risks >>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>> >>> The main risk is that this feature fails to become an interoperable part >>> of the web platform if other browsers do not implement it. Scripted >>> attempts to open a popup window after requesting fullscreen would likely be >>> blocked by user agents that do not implement this feature, even if they >>> implement the basic Multi-Screen Window Placement API. >>> >>> Gecko: No signal ( >>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/636) >>> >>> WebKit: No signal ( >>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2022-May/032223.html) >>> >>> Web developers: Positive ( >>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1233970) This >>> functionality is requested by a prominent API partner >>> >>> Ergonomics >>> >>> There is currently no way to detect feature support before attempted >>> usage; see >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RRlGQharWVnmxKTomfKhNiaeE31L7iXHeXVfifOvwJA/edit?pli=1#heading=h.vu2lz7aeddz6 >>> >>> Activation >>> >>> Developers can make immediate use of this API enhancement. >>> >>> Security >>> >>> This feature was designed from the ground-up to adhere to the strictest >>> usable security measures possible, as an incremental enhancement of >>> existing web platform APIs. See the design document for details. >>> >>> WebView application risks >>> >>> None >>> >>> Debuggability >>> >>> Existing mechanisms support debugging fullscreen and popup window open >>> requests. >>> >>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>> ? >>> >>> No. An existing automated/manual WPT covers the ability to open >>> cross-screen popups <https://wpt.live/window-placement>. We aim to >>> extend test coverage for this specific scenario soon < >>> https://crbug.com/1323361>. >>> >>> DevTrial instructions >>> >>> https://github.com/w3c/window-placement/blob/main/HOWTO.md >>> >>> Flag name >>> >>> --enable-blink-features=WindowPlacement >>> >>> Requires code in //chrome? >>> >>> True - >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QV4SW4JBG3IyLzaonohUhim7nzncwK4ioop2cgUYevw/edit#gid=0&range=34:34 >>> >>> Tracking bug >>> >>> https://crbug.com/1233970 >>> >>> Launch bug >>> >>> https://crbug.com/1315615 >>> >>> Sample links >>> >>> https://michaelwasserman.github.io/window-placement-demo/ >>> >>> (See DevTrial instructions) >>> >>> Estimated milestones >>> >>> DevTrial on desktop: 102 >>> >>> Shipping on desktop: 103 >>> >>> Anticipated spec changes >>> >>> No changes anticipated that would introduce web compat/interop risk >>> >>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>> >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5173162437246976 >>> >>> Links to previous Intent discussions >>> >>> Intents for the Multi-Screen Window Placement API: >>> >>> - >>> >>> I2P: < >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/X6rEbWvU7cI> >>> - >>> >>> I2E1: < >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/C6xw8i1ZIdE> >>> - >>> >>> I2E2: < >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jznxQK1U8ZQ> >>> - >>> >>> I2S: < >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/i6Zoc7jU0dM> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAN%2BkdQ4FcB_qto8h5GQrA4_ELUUwsyWWKyR0%3DmPsVxftr1uu2g%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAN%2BkdQ4FcB_qto8h5GQrA4_ELUUwsyWWKyR0%3DmPsVxftr1uu2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thomas Steiner, PhD—Developer Relations Engineer ( >> https://blog.tomayac.com, https://twitter.com/tomayac) >> >> Google Germany GmbH, ABC-Str. 19, 20354 Hamburg, Germany >> Geschäftsführer: Paul Manicle, Liana Sebastian >> Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891 >> >> ----- BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE ----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.3.4 (GNU/Linux) >> >> >> iFy0uwAntT0bE3xtRa5AfeCheCkthAtTh3reSabiGbl0ck0fjumBl3DCharaCTersAttH3b0ttom. >> hTtPs://xKcd.cOm/1181/ >> ----- END PGP SIGNATURE ----- >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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