Thanks all. I just realized there are some date typos for the
roll out plan. Update as follows:
Stage
Time
Date
Stable 1% (M107+)
Canary/Dev/Beta 100%
M107 stable release is shipping to 100% (a best guess)
Nov 1, 2022
Stable 10% (M107/M108/M109)
~10 weeks after previous stage
Jan 9, *2023*
Stable 50%
(M107/M108/M109)
~2 weeks
Jan 23, *2023*
TOT Default (M111)
~2 weeks after previous stage
Feb 7, *2023*
Stable 100% (M107=>M111)
~ Same business day as previous stage
Feb 7, *2023*
Bests,
Victor
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:59 AM Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org>
wrote:
LGTM3
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 5:51 PM Daniel Bratell
<brat...@gmail.com> wrote:
LGTM2
/Daniel
On 2022-09-07 17:50, Chris Harrelson wrote:
LGTM1. If any issues come up during this rollout that
affect the plan, please bring them back to this thread
for our consideration.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:29 AM Victor Tan
<vict...@chromium.org> wrote:
Contact emails
mike...@chromium.org, vict...@chromium.org
Explainer
https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity
<https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity>
Specification
https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction
<https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction>is
the closest thing that specifies Chrome’s UA
Reduction plans today. As these changes land in
Chromium and ship to 100% of stable, the Compat
Standard <https://compat.spec.whatwg.org/>will be
updated in the UA String section
<https://compat.spec.whatwg.org/#ua-string-pattern-chrome>,
like we did for the Phase 4 changes.
Summary
As previously detailed on the Chromium Blog
<https://blog.chromium.org/2021/09/user-agent-reduction-origin-trial-and-dates.html>,
we intend to proceed with Phase 5 of the User-Agent
Reduction plan
<https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction/#sample-ua-strings-phase-5>.
In Phase 5, the User-Agent string changes the
platform and oscpu tokens from their
platform-defined values to the relevant
unifiedPlatform
<https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction/#token-reference>token
value. The `navigator.platform`,
`navigator.platform`, and `navigator.appVersion` JS
APIs will be similarly reduced.
Blink component
Blink>Network>ClientHints
TAG review
https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/640
<https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/640>
TAG review status
Closed with concerns.
Risks
Interoperability and Compatibility
Any time you modify the User-Agent string there is a
risk of some content somewhere depending on the
previous format.
We do not expect interop risks, as each browser
sends its own User-Agent string format. But there is
a risk, especially on legacy Windows platforms, that
content somewhere is relying on User-Agents to parse
platform and oscpu information. We believe the risk
is somewhat low. But in order to mitigate the risk
of this change, we intend to slowly roll it out via
Finch creating two sub groups: one group enabling
the feature for all platforms except legacy Windows
platforms, another group enabling the feature on
legacy Windows platforms and observing health
metrics and bug reports. This gives us the option to
roll this back specifically for legacy Windows
clients if needed, but proceed for other platforms.
Displaying a modern OS version for legacy clients
will not create a problem syntactically on legacy
Windows platforms. But the web can get pretty weird
in ways we don't anticipate, hence the slow roll-out
and incremental path towards User-Agent Reduction.
Here is our proposed rollout plan, with the
understanding that if we discover concerning
breakage or regressions via health metrics or bug
reports we will pause the rollout or roll back the
feature entirely (and update this thread if so):
Stage
Time
Date
Stable 1% (M107+)
Canary/Dev/Beta 100%
M107 stable release is shipping to 100% (a best guess)
Nov 1, 2022
Stable 10% (M107/M108/M109)
~10 weeks after previous stage
Jan 9, 2022
Stable 50%
(M107/M108/M109)
~2 weeks
Jan 23, 2022
TOT Default (M111)
~2 weeks after previous stage
Feb 7, 2022
Stable 100% (M107=>M111)
~ Same business day as previous stage
Feb 7, 2022
Gecko: Shipped/Shipping. Firefox has frozen (or
capped) much of their UA string already.
WebKit: Shipped/Shipping. Safari has already frozen
everything in their desktop UA string except for
Safari and WebKit versions.
Web developers: Mixed signals. Reactions have ranged
from positive to indifferent to negative, from
various channels.
Debuggability
No special DevTools support needed.
Will this feature be supported on all six
Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome
OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
No (Only for desktop platforms: Windows, Mac, Linux,
Chrome OS)
Is this feature fully tested by
web-platform-tests
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?
No
Flag name
#reduce-user-agent-platform-oscpu
Tracking bug
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1339834
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1339834>
Launch bug
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1346071
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1346071>
Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5098783126323200
<https://chromestatus.com/feature/5098783126323200>
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