Is this thread meant for both deprecation and removal (given the short
timelines)?

Apologies for the delay in responding here. It might be worthwhile to
re-send it with the right title, as it's currently not caught in the API
owner's tooling (I suspect that's due to a missing ":").

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 11:30 PM Mason Freed <mas...@chromium.org> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 8:10 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Also, what are the timelines you have in mind in terms of deprecation?
>>
>
> I'd like to try starting to turn the feature off ASAP, in M123, to avoid
> an effect I've discovered where usage spikes when I announce deprecations.
>

That's odd..


> I would very slowly enable, likely over about 2 months/milestones. Let me
> know if that sounds ok. That's about the schedule I used for the
> `shadowroot` attribute, and that was successful.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:51 PM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unreliable use counters sound scary. We base a lot of decisions off
>>> those. So far they have only been shown to over-count though? But still,
>>> would be great if someone could get a grip on that bug and either fix it or
>>> make us understand what is going on.
>>>
>> Yeah, I agree. In my experience (which tends to be a lot of deprecations)
> the usage is always over-counted. My rough theory
> <https://github.com/GoogleChrome/chromium-dashboard/issues/1545#issuecomment-949018584>,
> if correct, doesn't always mean usage will be over-counted though.
>
>> For this feature, what is the status of getHTML()? Can we redirect users
>>> to it already?
>>>
>>  It's implemented, and here's the chromestatus for that
> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5102952270528512>. I haven't shipped it
> yet, but my plan is to do that ASAP. Ideally I ship it in M123, to coincide
> with this deprecation.
>
> On 2024-01-23 20:38, 'Dan Clark' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess a theoretical risk is that someone feature-checks for
>>> HTMLTemplateElement.shadowRootMode and then assumes the existence of
>>> getInnerHTML() based on that check. But given the lack of usage in the top
>>> sites I agree that this seems to not be an issue in practice.
>>>
>>> I suppose that's a theoretical risk, yes. I bet (hope?) it's rare
> though.
>
>> I saw that there's a support email listed at https://www.heap.io/auryc.
>>> Maybe worth a ping?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I'll give them a ping. I'm not sure it's worth it, given that
> the existing feature detection is already disabled by the lack of the
> `shadowroot` attribute. But no harm.
>
> Thanks,
> Mason
>
>
>> -- Dan
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 8:42:43 AM UTC-8 mas...@chromium.org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 8:05 AM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I think the risk is low here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Great, thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, I couldn't find any relevant github or contact info for this
>>>>> library but if you had better luck finding contact information, we might 
>>>>> as
>>>>> well file an issue or send an email.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also tried to find it, but failed. It appears to be closed source.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>> ?No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finch feature nameNone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-finch justificationNone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/1519972
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Statushttps://chromestatus.com/
>>>>>> feature/5081733588582400
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This intent message was generated by me, manually, because of this
>>>>>> bug <https://github.com/GoogleChrome/chromium-dashboard/issues/3596>.
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