LGTM2

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:53 PM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> LGTM1
>
> /Daniel
>
> On 2024-02-09 20:24, 'Yotam Hacohen' via blink-dev wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 6:46:00 PM UTC-8 Domenic Denicola wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 10:55 AM Yotam Hacohen <yo...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Dominic and thanks for the input!
>
> On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 7:34:53 PM UTC-8 Domenic Denicola wrote:
>
> It's always exciting to move such an old feature from nonstandard to 
> standardized!
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:18 AM 'Yotam Hacohen' via blink-dev 
> <blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Contact emailsyo...@google.com
>
> ExplainerNone
>
>
> FWIW, I think the contents of https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/9699 
> and https://drafts.csswg.org/css-viewport/#zoom-property are probably a good 
> enough explainer. It might be a good idea to update ChromeStatus to link to 
> them.
>
> Added those. Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> Specificationhttps://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/9699
>
> Design 
> docshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1AcnDShjT-kEuRaMchZPm5uaIgNZ4OiYtM4JI9qiV8Po/edit
>
> Summary
>
> Aligns the existing implementation of the previously non-standard CSS zoom 
> property to align with the new standard. This changes various JS APIs to 
> align with the spec (see design doc), change zoom to apply to iframes, and 
> change it to apply to all inherit all length properties (currently it only 
> changes inherited font-size)
>
>
> Blink componentBlink>Paint
>
> TAG reviewNone
>
> TAG review statusPending
>
>
> Probably this fits under the first exception here.
>
>
>
>
> Risks
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
> There is web compatibility risk for these changes. However, previous research 
> indicates broken content due to unexpected changes of the JS APIs is very 
> unlikely, since: * The changes to the JS API simply change the coordinate 
> space of the responses, not the syntax or what APIs are available. * Most 
> pages found during the research didn't appear to use CSS zoom at all and the 
> ones that did only relied on the visual effect, not JS APIs. It's possible 
> some pages will be broken by the changes to inherited properties other than 
> font-size, or applying zoom to sub-frames, but based on previous research, 
> those are very likely to be minor visual changes that don't break fundamental 
> user interaction with the site. None of the sites reviewed contained iframes 
> underneath a zoomed ancestor. We will use direct outreach to avoid any broken 
> features in Office 365 or the Gmail native mobile app
>
>
> Can you give more quantitative details on this previous research? E.g. when 
> you say "most pages", is that 3/5 pages? 99/100?
>
>   Sampling pages from the doc, I couldn't find even one example of a page 
> that uses zoom in a way that will change it's behavior (i.e. - calling 
> GetBoundingClientRect or GetBoundingRects on an element with CSS zoom). I 
> also compared those sites visually side by side on a stable version of chrome 
> and a local version with the planned changes in effect, and couldn't see any 
> change.
>
>
> This sounds like a good sign, but I'd still appreciate some numbers. So it's 
> zero out of how many?
>
> I checked the first 15 websites in the list on this doc: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cmbXpjAcXAht2ufi7bNKy-rbVNveqaf0UzeYg_DIMNA/edit#heading=h.6sz4u73bikbd
>
>
>
>
>
> Regarding the direct outreach targets you mentioned, are they already fixed, 
> or do they need more time to update?
>
> We have reached out to the relevant people.
>
>
> So, you have contacted them, but they still need more time to update? Do you 
> have an estimate for when they will be updated?
>
> We already got a response from the gmail team, and everything is ok there, we 
> even have a jsfiddle example that shows that the visual aspect doesn't change 
> for them. Still waiting for a response from the Office 365, if we don't get a 
> response in the next week we will reach out again for a better defined 
> timeline.
>
>
>
> What is your rollout plan for this change---straight to 100% with a 
> killswitch, or a gradual rollout, or...?
>
> Our plan is to go straight to 100% with a killswitch.
>
>
>
>
> Gecko: No signal Filed a standard position request: 
> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/977
>
> WebKit: No signal Filed a standard position request: 
> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/311
>
> Web developers: Positive 
> (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cmbXpjAcXAht2ufi7bNKy-rbVNveqaf0UzeYg_DIMNA/edit#heading=h.6sz4u73bikbd)
>  Research collected as part of the previous attempt to remove CSS zoom 
> demonstrated several use cases.
>
> Other signals:
>
> WebView application risks
>
> See Interoperability and Compatibility above
>
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> None
>
>
> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?No
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?Yes
>
> All JS APIs affected by zoom are tested with the following wpt tests: 
> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/offsetTop-offsetLeft-with-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&q=cssom-view%2FoffsetTop-offsetLeft-with-zoom.html
>  
> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/client-props-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
>  
> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/getBoundingClientRect-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
>  
> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/getClientRects-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
>  
> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/cssom-view/scroll-zoom.html?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
>  
> https://wpt.fyi/results/intersection-observer/zoom-scaled-target.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>
>
> Are the non-JS aspects of the API also tested?
>
> Yes, the tests also test the cpp code that is affected.
>
>
> My question was about the visual aspects. Are there any, for example, 
> reftests, which show that zoom has a visual effect?
>
> Yes, there are reftests for zoom in the wpt folder. The behavior of many 
> aspects of the zoom are not changed (Especially the visual effect of CSS zoom 
> on most elements, excluding iframes) and those tests stay the same. We will 
> also add reftests for iframes with CSS zoom withe the patch adding those 
> changes to iframes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Flag name on chrome://flagsStandardizedBrowserZoom
>
> Finch feature nameStandardizedBrowserZoom
>
> Requires code in //chrome?False
>
> Sample linkshttps://jsbin.com/wasafateko/edit?html,css,js,output
>
> Estimated milestones
>
> No milestones specified
>
>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform 
> Statushttps://chromestatus.com/feature/5198254868529152
>
> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "blink-dev" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAAOtuiYKjC9Gt%2BgXwWNT_hJneBMa053RizCX5Xj5p_07CVLXkA%40mail.gmail.com.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "blink-dev" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1879c472-27c5-46f1-858d-125890807771n%40chromium.org.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "blink-dev" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/7efa033c-2a53-4ac0-8c1a-23c0f9d72f40%40gmail.com.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"blink-dev" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAARdPYcAahY9vaoH3Pzths-fM-quQuynoQTvRHuqVMuTo5cMKQ%40mail.gmail.com.

Reply via email to