Fair enough Anton. Admittedly a bit of wishful thinking on my part. Although FWIW, the origin trial status in dev tools only mentions the expiration date, not version. By no means an excuse, but I'm curious, why express the trial expiration in terms of a date at all, much less a date that is 1.5 months after from when it effectively ends for most users?
Again, no excuses. I agree the versioning was clearly communicated. Just wanted to give some feedback to consider to possibly minimize confusion in the future. Thanks for your response, Hans On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 10:50:43 AM UTC-7 Anton Bershanskyi wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Could you please clarify which web page suggests that the WebSQL > availability would extend to Chrome 124 inclusive? All news/articles I > could find online suggest that the last version supporting WebSQL would be > 123: > > - Feature: Deprecate and Remove WebSQL > <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5134293578285056> > - Web SQL deprecation timeline updated > <https://developer.chrome.com/blog/web-sql-deprecation-timeline-updated> > (the > date for Chromium 123 is odd in this one) > - Deprecating and removing Web SQL > <https://developer.chrome.com/blog/deprecating-web-sql> > > Also, the DevTools UI already removed WebSQL viewer from "Application" > tab. > <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/devtools/devtools-frontend/+/5335172> > > The change will arrive in Chrome Canary next week. WebSQL flag is also > considered to be expired > <https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/325834723> (no longer available > and will be removed from source code soon). > > Sincerely, > Anton. > On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:21:18 PM UTC+2 Hans Meyer wrote: > >> Hi Ayu, >> >> Can you clarify... are you saying the deprecation trial does NOT extend >> to Chrome 124? I would not have expected that given that the trial's >> expiration date has been communicated consistently as *May 28, 2024*. >> >> Thanks, >> Hans >> >> >> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 11:15:46 AM UTC-7 Ayu Ishii wrote: >> >>> Hi Antonio, >>> >>> That is correct, 123 will be the last supported version via flag or >>> policy. >>> 124 will be the first version WebSQL will no longer be available even >>> with a flag or policy. >>> >>> Best, >>> Ayu >>> >>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 8:02:48 AM UTC-8 Antonio MORENO wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Related to this topic, a bit of a simple question: In the initial >>>> announcement, it seemed to indicate that Chrome 123 would be the first >>>> version without any kind of support for WebSQL. However, at least in the >>>> current version of the beta (123.0.6312.4) support is still there, and can >>>> be enabled with the corresponding flag. Can you confirm if this will be >>>> the >>>> case with the stable version of 123, and the feature will be removed only >>>> in version 124? >>>> >>>> Thanks, and regards, >>>> >>>> Antonio. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 11:24:34 AM UTC+1 Etienne Noël wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We have been communicating this deprecation for a while now so >>>>> unfortunately, we will not extend it further. >>>>> >>>>> It’s a significant source of security issues so we will keep the >>>>> original deprecation timeline. >>>>> >>>>> If that can be useful to your situation, SQLite is available in the >>>>> browser: >>>>> >>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/sqlite-wasm-in-the-browser-backed-by-the-origin-private-file-system >>>>> >>>>> It might make the migration easier for you if that’s a >>>>> suitable solution. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Etienne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Etienne Noël >>>>> >>>>> Engineering Manager >>>>> >>>>> Chrome Storage >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 16:56 Bobby Langley <rlan...@grubbrr.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just started using the origin trial in one of our apps that requires >>>>>> a slightly overly extertive lift to change from webSQL to IndexedDB. The >>>>>> expiry says May 28, 2024 -- what is the potential that date could be >>>>>> extended while we work to release our new version? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4 Panos Astithas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Guillem, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The page load limit only applies to trials that introduce new >>>>>>> features, not deprecation trials like this one that remove a feature. >>>>>>> Apologies for the confusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Panos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 10:29 AM 'Guillem Olivé' via blink-dev < >>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am working by a third-party enterprise and we are still using >>>>>>>> webSQL functionality. Our application will be refactored to remove it, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> it will take some time to make it possible. >>>>>>>> We are apprehensive about the disclaimer in the WebSQL Deprecation >>>>>>>> Trial registration: "I understand that I may need to limit use of this >>>>>>>> experimental feature to some subset of my users because of the limit >>>>>>>> whereby an experimental feature will be disabled if it is used on more >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> 0.5% of Chrome page loads (as a median over a 14 day period).". Will >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> production application not be able to work if the overall usage >>>>>>>> increases >>>>>>>> from 0.34% to 0.51% of page loads? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El dia dijous, 13 de juliol de 2023 a les 1:59:41 UTC+2, Ayu Ishii >>>>>>>> va escriure: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WebSQL Deprecation Trial registration is now available at >>>>>>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/origintrials/#/view_trial/494270059103911937 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 6:48:09 AM UTC-7 tste...@google.com >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Timeline updated in developer-facing comms: >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/GoogleChrome/developer.chrome.com/pull/6725. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:57 PM Ayu Ishii <ay...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi blink owners, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With request from partners, we are planning to update the >>>>>>>>>>> timeline to enable deprecation trial from M117 (previously M118) to >>>>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>>>> a larger window to integrate with the trial before full removal in >>>>>>>>>>> M119. >>>>>>>>>>> The rest of the timeline will stay the same. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> NEW - Target timeline: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M101 - 123 - Enterprise Policy >>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromeenterprise.google/policies/#WebSQLAccess> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M115 - Add deprecation message >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M117-123 - Deprecation trial >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M119 - Ship removal OLD - Target timeline: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M101 - 123 - Enterprise Policy >>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromeenterprise.google/policies/#WebSQLAccess> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M115 - Add deprecation message >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M118-123 - Deprecation trial >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M119 - Ship removal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Ayu >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 1:36:24 AM UTC-7 tste...@google.com >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:29 AM Asier Lostalé < >>>>>>>>>>>> asier....@openbravo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Thomas, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If possible, I'd like to clarify a couple of topics: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I see there is already an "Allows access to WebSQL APIs" >>>>>>>>>>>>> flag that can be used to force access to WebSQL. For how long is >>>>>>>>>>>>> this flag >>>>>>>>>>>>> planned to be kept? Will it be available from M119 to M123? What >>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>> after M123? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since the code is going to be removed, the flag will be removed >>>>>>>>>>>> as a consequence as well. Given the current timeline >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://developer.chrome.com/blog/web-sql-deprecation-timeline-updated/>, >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> would *not* count for the code to exist after 123. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - As a site owner, how can I take part of the deprecation >>>>>>>>>>>>> trial? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please see this article on origin trials >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://developer.chrome.com/docs/web-platform/origin-trials/#deprecation-trials>. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A deprecation trial works just the other way round: rather than >>>>>>>>>>>> granting >>>>>>>>>>>> your site early access to a future feature, it grants you late >>>>>>>>>>>> access to a >>>>>>>>>>>> past feature. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Thomas Steiner, PhD—Developer Relations Engineer ( >>>>>>>>>> https://blog.tomayac.com, https://twitter.com/tomayac) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Google Germany GmbH, ABC-Str. 19, 20354 Hamburg, Germany >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/ABC-Str.+19,+20354+Hamburg,+Germany?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Paul Manicle, Liana Sebastian >>>>>>>>>> Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE ----- >>>>>>>>>> Version: GnuPG v2.3.4 (GNU/Linux) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> iFy0uwAntT0bE3xtRa5AfeCheCkthAtTh3reSabiGbl0ck0fjumBl3DCharaCTersAttH3b0ttom. >>>>>>>>>> hTtPs://xKcd.cOm/1181/ >>>>>>>>>> ----- END PGP SIGNATURE ----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/27f5849e-4762-484d-8afc-80e31692b2f7n%40chromium.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/27f5849e-4762-484d-8afc-80e31692b2f7n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/0e18aeea-aff4-454e-960e-d350edd0d2b7n%40chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/0e18aeea-aff4-454e-960e-d350edd0d2b7n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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