LGTM2

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 5:52 AM 'Jiaming Cheng' via blink-dev <
blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

> Thanks Domenic :]
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:28 PM Domenic Denicola <dome...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> LGTM1.
>>
>> This feature and its spec fits well with the existing MediaMetadata. It
>> has received a positive position from Mozilla. The TAG review solicited a
>> good discussion of considered alternatives.
>>
>> I agree with Alex that this would have gone better with a proper
>> explainer, including considered alternatives and example code. But the
>> feature is simple enough, and thankfully we got a chance to spell out the
>> reasoning about alternatives in the TAG review, so I think we can proceed.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 1:53:09 AM UTC+9 Alex Russell wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for the slow reply here.
>>>
>>> Glad to see this works for Audio too. This might have been a bit more
>>> obvious of there were an explainer in the usual format. I expect the TAG
>>> will ask for one of those too. Please pay particular attention to
>>> considered alternatives and example code, both for the proposed design and
>>> for discarded alternatives.
>>>
>>> https://w3ctag.org/explainers/
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:14:18 PM UTC-7 Jiaming Cheng wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Domenic and Mike for the reply!
>>>>
>>>> I see. It looks like we have an LGTM on the Mozilla review
>>>> <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1019>. Could we
>>>> please add some reviewers for the TAG review as well? If not, I'm happy to
>>>> ping this thread again in two weeks :]
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jiaming
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:16 PM Domenic Denicola <dome...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jiaming,
>>>>>
>>>>> Per our process
>>>>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#new-feature-prepare-to-ship>,
>>>>> we give the TAG and other vendors at least one month to comment on 
>>>>> changes.
>>>>> (This is why it is recommended to start these reviewers earlier, before
>>>>> sending the Intent to Ship.) So it might be a bit more time before we can
>>>>> consider this feature for shipping. Of course, if you get responses and
>>>>> engagement before that point, we can proceed earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Domenic
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 11:06:55 AM UTC+9 Jiaming Cheng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those reviews have been posted for 10 days, there's no opposing
>>>>>> comments on any of them so far. Could you please take another look at 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> intent?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jiaming
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:25 PM Jiaming Cheng <jiami...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alex, Chris and Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your valuable feedback!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've addressed your comments and taken the following updates:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Alex, the ChapterInformation *does* apply to audio as well as
>>>>>>> video, since MediaSession is for both audio and video. I've updated the
>>>>>>> Chrome status to reflect this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additionally, I've taken the following actions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Added WPT test:
>>>>>>>    https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5516503
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Filed TAG review:
>>>>>>>    https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/952
>>>>>>>    - Filed WebKit review:
>>>>>>>    https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/344
>>>>>>>    - Filed Gecko review:
>>>>>>>    https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1019
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will keep you updated on the progress of these reviews and notify
>>>>>>> you once they are approved. Let me know if you have any questions :]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Jiaming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 8:57 AM Alex Russell <
>>>>>>> slightly...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On reviewing this, I'm concerned that this isn't also addressing
>>>>>>>> the same needs for Audio. This would have come up in a TAG review, and
>>>>>>>> probably would have been fleshed out in an Explainer. Would like to see
>>>>>>>> those before this progresses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 3:35:45 PM UTC-7 dan...@microsoft.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was curious about WPT coverage for this and found
>>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/mediasession/mediametadata.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe that could be updated to check for the basics of the new
>>>>>>>>> attribute?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* 'Jiaming Cheng' via blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2024 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* blink-dev@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Alex Newcomer <newco...@google.com>; Megan Fu <
>>>>>>>>> megan...@google.com>; Tommy Steimel <stei...@google.com>; Andrew
>>>>>>>>> Xu <andre...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Support Video Chapter in
>>>>>>>>> MediaMetadata
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jiami...@google.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/308
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/mediasession/#the-chapterinformation-interface
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The corresponding implementation on the blink layer based on the
>>>>>>>>> w3c api change, which is to add the `ChapterInformation` attribute in 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> existing `MediaMetadata` See the propose:
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/issues/273
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blink>Media>Session
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMedia%3ESession>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG review status
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not applicable
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It’s low risk as it's a small addition to an existing API that
>>>>>>>>> both Gecko and WebKit approve of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs,
>>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based
>>>>>>>>> applications?*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MediaSessionChapterInformation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finch feature name
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Non-finch justification
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> False
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sample links
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://googlechrome.github.io/samples/media-session/video.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 126
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web
>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known
>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) whose
>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to 
>>>>>>>>> naming
>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6682585059295232?gate=5003115407605760
>>>>>>>>>
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