Hi Florian, On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Florian Effenberger <flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > You know, complaining is easy. I myself do nearly a half-day job for TDF, > next to my real life, and I'm a bit allergic to generalization. If there is > a specific topic that does not work out, please ping us again and let us > know. But saying in general, we are totally closed and nothing works is a > bit unfair, David. You know better that it isn't that bad.
I know you work tremendously hard for the project, and you have a lot of respect and gratitude from me from that, which you know I have expressed on- and off-list various times. Let me take the chance to say again that, without your *personal* efforts, this project would probably fall apart. Literally. No, this is in no way directed towards you personally. Nor do I ever say that "everything is bad". But that doesn't mean that one should not point out undesirable tendencies (in a measured and rational manner) before they get to be ingrained habits. And I do understand that, in a FOSS project, we always have to take account of people's time limitations. However, when one is managing the project's key infrastructure as a rather closed group, one does have a bit of a commitment to especial responsiveness, within reasonable limits. In any case, it's certainly what I try to apply with my own piece of infrastructure. My point is that the sysadmins team is perhaps not developing the right culture in terms of openness and participation, and that it would be good to open it up a bit. This is my 2 cents, others may not see things like that, but... For the particular questions I could have raised, I'll mail you off-list. In which case, I perfectly accept that it will take you time to consider and respond, because I know you have a lot on your plate. Once again, you definitely should not read all the above posts as any kind of criticism of you personally. You should probably be aware by now that I hold your work for the project in very high regard. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted