Agree with Sophie's and Daniel's POV.  Civic technology like this has been 
proved successful in many countries/areas including Taiwan.

BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked, tried and 
improved from the running experiences, it will not be a big deal IMO.

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2020年7月17日 20:32:19 sophi <so...@libreoffice.org>:

> Hi,
> Le 09/07/2020 à 16:03, Daniel Armando Rodriguez a écrit :
>> El 2020-07-09 06:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió:
>>> Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44:
>>>> Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
>>>>> DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges
>>>>> comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down.
>>>>> 
>>>> But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the too-many-channels
>>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> In my view it would not help solve that specific problem. I guess the
>>> idea was instead to have a channel geared towards a very specific
>>> purpose (feedback to TDF governance) with an interface that would be
>>> pleasant for the majority.
>> 
>> Ilmari did the reading I was aiming at.
>> 
>> One example, spanish ML has 329 subscribers so far. Takign just the 1%
>> of the spanish speaking people worldwide, which is about 500 millions,
>> that number is not even insignificant.
>> 
>> That's the main reason that motivates me, to bring new users closer
>> through a channel more in tune with the current times and, therefore,
>> something that most computer users are used to.
> 
> I agree, and by the way, it's not yet another communication channel as
> some may see it, it's a participative platform to collect feedback from
> large groups in an organized way either by comments, supports or votesœ.
> Decision takers spend less time to analyze and sort the feedback
> provided than on mailing lists. For a project of our size, I feel it's
> also needed to have participatory mechanisms that are welcoming to NLPs
> too and civic technologies are an answer to that.
> Thorsten, I understand your fears that the communication may spread over
> another tool, but it's a matter of education and contributors will
> quickly see the advantages of using it instead of posting on Telegram,
> BZ or mailing lists because it's exactly done for governance. It's also
> a way to value their feedback by having a mean to support it.
> 
> Cheers
> Sophie
> 
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