Hi Simon, all, Le 14/01/2022 à 19:14, Simon Phipps a écrit : > Hi Sophie, > > I appreciate your comment here and (with some fear) have to respond to > amplify it.
Thank you for your support. You amplified more than my initial thoughts which were only about solidarity, altruism and generosity. > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 11:14 AM sophi <so...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > >> >> On my point of view, it was not about achieving market dominance but >> about solidarity. And TDF has failed here, again on my point of view. >> > > Yes, I have to agree with you. Freedom, equality and solidarity used to be > the norm at TDF.> Over the last couple of years that has largely ended at > the Foundation level (fortunately our community still has many parts where > this is not true). This has led to progress grinding to a halt > through mistrust. For example, both TDC and LOOL were ended just at the > point where the external conditions suggested they were going to flourish. > Little has been achieved in their place as you observe, and as the tired > bickering in this thread illustrates. I don't want to go back in these stories of TDC and LOOL again but they are two very different situations for me. What I can agree with you is that both have damaged the community's confidence in what is TDF and what it should represent. I've read all the minutes of the board meetings, attended several of these meetings, and I can say this board has took several actions during this two very difficult years without having a chance to meet. My mail was not to address reproaches to the board, but a reaction to what Thorsten and Michael said on the pandemic period. > > Egalitarianism was replaced by turning inwards to fight unproductively > among those privileged to be allowed information - and in the process to > slander those involved before. As a result of this the Foundation has > turned even more closed, with Board inflighting leaving the Trustees in the > dark while the arguments went on. There has consequently been no spirit of > solidarity to harness to do good outside the project. As you say, that is > tragic, and I really appreciate your observation of it. Well that's not exactly what I said, and in my opinion the board was more open to discussions than some years before. But I agree with you that even arguments should be more transparent and the community should be aware when things are going worse. > > If TDF is to satisfy its mission this has to stop. The new Board has a huge > opportunity and responsibility to put all this behind them and lead > positively. It must shun divisiveness and seek ways to rekindle solidarity > by emphasizing equality and promoting freedom. This will not be done > treating the motivations of some participants as suspect! In fact almost > everyone is pursuing an "interest", almost by definition in a collaborative > community! Yes and I really appreciate the tools provided by the MC to rebuild trust. > > As Maslow <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs> > observed, before higher-level behaviours can be cultivated, basic needs > must be met - especially belonging and esteem. The Foundation needs to be > more inclusive of all its trustees in its processes rather than just > consulting them for votes once every two years. It needs to be realistic > about the pragmatics of large-scale software engineering and how it's paid > for and rein-in those trying to frame "commercial" as tainted. It has to > seek ways to encourage both community and commercial activities inside its > "umbrella" rather than treating some as clean and some as unclean. This is not what I've seen in the project, commercial is not tainted. We need to have a balance between commercial and charitable activities. In my very own opinion, we have moved away from this balance and we could have reshaped it during the pandemic. > > I very much hope the new Board will engage positively and unanimously on > these things. I'm not finding the current conversation encouraging but I > have hopes the new team will take a firm hold and change things for the > better. Well this discussion has been proposed by a community member, and I find it encouraging in the sens of I hope it will clarify who is TDF and what it should do for its community at large. cheers Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
