I am typing fast before a reboot as I am out of computer resources.

Currently running 6.10.24 (shortly, I know I need to load 6.10.25)

This goes along with the discussion about debts. I was in a situation where
on one host which does Seti GPU and NFS CPU (project pairing on an AMD
Host). I ran into a situation where due to the Seti VLAR WU's on GPU, it
exhausted "all" the computer resources. What happened NEXT on the next WU
It errored! No big deal As the CPU run time was about 10+ seconds the
scheduler then adjusts DCF (down) eventually more was requested. Then with
more errors it needs even more work. As things continued to error with "CPU
run" time DCF went even further down. The Runaway condition continued until
Seti Main seeing the Errors told "quota" to shut the machine off. No sanity
check was in place for did the WU complete successfully after some CPU run
time as reported to the scheduler before adjusting DCF. As the scheduler
reported the "completion" (success or failure aside) it needed more work to
continue. DCF continued to go down to request even more work. Then even more
work (death spiral). The End result was that I was stopped from getting more
work (quota), and had around 200 WU's in the cache.

The machine has an accurate flops guesstimate. As a function of the extended
run time of a VLAR on completion is drives DCF up which is good (sorta but
not the issue) but as I had not rebooted to manually clear computer
resources. Which caused the problem. So with the ATI Apps in Beta it is
still indicative of the issue.

I set NNT, rebooted and started to let things work themselves out. I am now
down to about 50 WU's and very large Negative Debt.

17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 86400.00 sec
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
-225286.66 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (overworked)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] overall LTD -2474223.61

The only suggestion I could make is "success or failure aside" is if CPU
runtime is less than some value "do not adjust DCF." Application
initialization requires some finite value of CPU runtime (CPU or GPU). Even
if the Application runtime is one minute, you have a basic value resource
type aside. It becomes a Sanity Check. Then you could popup a Dialog Box
(only one please) telling the user there is a problem with Boinc and their
selected project(s).

Snippet from the log

17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] ------- start work fetch state -------
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 86400.00 sec
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] CPU: shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00 saturated
109814.95 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 100.00 runnable 100.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [boincsimap] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [einst...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 1.00 LTD 0.00 backoff
dt 0.00 int 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [BOINC alpha test] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [milky...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [nque...@home Project] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm deferred) (no new
tasks) (too many uploads)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home Beta Test] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (blocked by prefs)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [spinhe...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [GPUGRID] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00 backoff
dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (blocked by prefs)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00
saturated 254092.10 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 100.00 runnable 100.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [boincsimap] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [einst...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 1.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [BOINC alpha test] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00
LTD 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [milky...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [nque...@home Project] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share
0.00 LTD 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm
deferred) (no new tasks) (too many uploads)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
-225286.66 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (overworked)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home Beta Test] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share
0.00 LTD 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [spinhe...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [GPUGRID] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [boincsimap] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [einst...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [BOINC alpha test] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [milky...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [nque...@home Project] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
Currently running 6.10.24 (shortly, I know I need to load 6.10.25)

This goes along with the discussion about debts. I was in a situation where
on one host which does Seti GPU and NFS CPU (project pairing on an AMD
Host). I ran into a situation where due to the Seti VLAR WU's on GPU, it
exhausted "all" the computer resources. What happened NEXT on the next WU
It errored! No big deal As the CPU run time was about 10+ seconds the
scheduler then adjusts DCF (down) eventually more was requested. Then with
more errors it needs even more work. As things continued to error with CPU
run time DCF went even further down. The Runaway condition continued until
Seti Main seeing the Errors told "quota" to shut the machine off. No sanity
check was in place for did the WU complete successfully after some CPU run
time as reported to the scheduler before adjusting DCF. As the scheduler
reported the "completion" (success or failure aside) it needed more work to
continue. DCF continued to go down to request even more work. Then even more
work (death spiral). The End result was that I was stopped from getting more
work, and had around 200 WU's in the cache.

The machine has an accurate flops guesstimate. As a function of the extended
run time of a VLAR on completion is drives DCF up which is good (sorta but
not the issue) but as I had not rebooted to manually clear computer
resources. Which caused the problem. So with the ATI Apps in Beta it is
still indicative of the issue.

I set NNT, rebooted and started to let things work themselves out. I am now
down to about 50 WU's and very large Negative Debt.

17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 86400.00 sec
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
-225286.66 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (overworked)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] overall LTD -2474223.61

The only suggestion I could make is "success or failute aside" is if CPU
runtime is less than some value do not adjust DCF. Application
initialization requires some finite value of CPU runtime (CPU or GPU). So
even if the Application runtime is one minute, you have a basic value. It
becomes a Sanity Check. Then you could popup a Dialog Box (only one please)
telling the user there is a problem with Boinc and their selected
project(s).

17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] ------- start work fetch state -------
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 86400.00 sec
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] CPU: shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00 saturated
109814.95 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 100.00 runnable 100.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [boincsimap] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [einst...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 1.00 LTD 0.00 backoff
dt 0.00 int 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [BOINC alpha test] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [milky...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [nque...@home Project] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm deferred) (no new
tasks) (too many uploads)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home Beta Test] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (blocked by prefs)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [spinhe...@home] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [GPUGRID] [wfd] CPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00 backoff
dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (blocked by prefs)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00
saturated 254092.10 busy 0.00 RS fetchable 100.00 runnable 100.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [boincsimap] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [einst...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 1.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [BOINC alpha test] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00
LTD 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [milky...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [nque...@home Project] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share
0.00 LTD 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (master fetch pending) (comm
deferred) (no new tasks) (too many uploads)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
-225286.66 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks) (overworked)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home Beta Test] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share
0.00 LTD 0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [spinhe...@home] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD
0.00 backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [GPUGRID] [wfd] NVIDIA GPU: fetch share 0.00 LTD 0.00
backoff dt 0.00 int 0.00 (no new tasks)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [boincsimap] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [einst...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [BOINC alpha test] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [milky...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [nque...@home Project] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home] [wfd] overall LTD -2474223.61
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home Beta Test] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [spinhe...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [GPUGRID] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] ------- end work fetch state -------
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] No project chosen for work fetch
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [boincsimap] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [einst...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [debt] CPU LTD 2.24 delta 2.24 (1.00*114.40
- 112.16)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [milky...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [nque...@home Project] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [spinhe...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [GPUGRID] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [---] [debt] CPU LTD: adding offset -2.24
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD delta 2.24 (1.00*114.40
- 112.16)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [boincsimap] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [einst...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD 28.04 delta 28.04
(0.50*56.08 - 0.00)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [milky...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [nque...@home Project] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible;
LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD -225314.70 delta
-28.04 (0.50*56.08 - 56.08)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [spinhe...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [GPUGRID] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [---] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD: adding offset -28.04
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD delta 0.00
(1.00*56.08 - 56.08)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [boincsimap] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [einst...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [debt] CPU LTD 0.24 delta 0.24 (1.00*12.27 -
12.03)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [milky...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [nque...@home Project] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [spinhe...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [GPUGRID] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [---] [debt] CPU LTD: adding offset -0.24
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD delta 0.24 (1.00*12.27 -
12.03)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [boincsimap] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [einst...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD 3.01 delta 3.01
(0.50*6.02 - 0.00)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [milky...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [nque...@home Project] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible;
LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD -225345.74 delta
-3.01 (0.50*6.02 - 6.02)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [spinhe...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [GPUGRID] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [---] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD: adding offset -3.01
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD delta 0.00
(1.00*6.02 - 6.02)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [s...@home Beta Test] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [spinhe...@home] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [GPUGRID] [wfd] overall LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] ------- end work fetch state -------
17-Dec-2009 17:02:10 [---] [wfd] No project chosen for work fetch
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [boincsimap] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [einst...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [debt] CPU LTD 2.24 delta 2.24 (1.00*114.40
- 112.16)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [milky...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [nque...@home Project] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [spinhe...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [GPUGRID] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [---] [debt] CPU LTD: adding offset -2.24
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD delta 2.24 (1.00*114.40
- 112.16)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [boincsimap] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [einst...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD 28.04 delta 28.04
(0.50*56.08 - 0.00)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [milky...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [nque...@home Project] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible;
LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD -225314.70 delta
-28.04 (0.50*56.08 - 56.08)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [spinhe...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [GPUGRID] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [---] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD: adding offset -28.04
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD delta 0.00
(1.00*56.08 - 56.08)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:29 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [boincsimap] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [einst...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [debt] CPU LTD 0.24 delta 0.24 (1.00*12.27 -
12.03)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [milky...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [nque...@home Project] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [spinhe...@home] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [GPUGRID] [debt] CPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [---] [debt] CPU LTD: adding offset -0.24
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD delta 0.24 (1.00*12.27 -
12.03)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [std_debug] CPU STD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [boincsimap] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [einst...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD 3.01 delta 3.01
(0.50*6.02 - 0.00)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [BOINC alpha test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [milky...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [nque...@home Project] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible;
LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD -225345.74 delta
-3.01 (0.50*6.02 - 6.02)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home Beta Test] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD
0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [spinhe...@home] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [GPUGRID] [debt] NVIDIA GPU ineligible; LTD 0.00
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [---] [debt] NVIDIA GPU LTD: adding offset -3.01
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD delta 0.00
(1.00*6.02 - 6.02)
17-Dec-2009 17:02:35 [s...@home] [std_debug] NVIDIA GPU STD 0.00


-----Original Message-----
From: David Anderson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:16 PM
To: Pappa
Cc: 'Stephen Maclagan'; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [boinc_alpha] Maximum time Exceeded on Hybrid ATI Astropulse
app

We'll reduce the scheduler's FLOPS estimate.
Currently the estimate is (peak GPU FLOPS)/5.
Does anyone have a suggestion for what it should be?
Seems like it should reflect both CPU and GPU speed.

-- David

Pappa wrote:
> The other side effect that has not been fully explored, there were several
> machines that received over a hundred AP WU's to be errored out. The
thought
> is if it can not determine a proper estimate of run time from the GPU
flops
> and DCF. Only Quota will stop the runaway host.
> 
> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=42925
>
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=42925&offset=100&sho
> w_names=0&state=5
> 
> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=40712
>
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=40712&offset=140&sho
> w_names=0&state=5
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Maclagan
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:23 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [boinc_alpha] Maximum time Exceeded on Hybrid ATI Astropulse app
> 
> Raistmer's Hybrid ATI Astropulse app has now made it to Seti Beta as a
Stock
> app, it does only some of it's Calculations on the GPU,
> with most of it being done on the CPU, some CPU's have been historically
> poor at doing Astropulse because of their small L2 Caches, ie AMD chips,
> while the C2D with the Larger caches have been a lot faster, at moment we
> are starting to seeing some of the AMD's running into maximum time
exceeded,
> because it'll be GPU flops that taken into account when the tasks get
> aborted,
> There's also an i7 920 with two HD5800's also running into maximum time
> exceeded as well, because it has the newest and fastest ATI cards out,
> while two other i7 920's with lower Spec GPU's can manage to finish the
> tasks O.K,
> 
> This was cured in Boinc 6.10.14 with:
> 
>> - client: if anonymous platform description (app_info.xml) doesn't
specify
> FLOPS for a GPU app, assume that it runs at CPU peak speed rather than GPU
> peak speed. Better to be conservative, otherwise job might be >aborted due
> to time limit exceeded. 
> 
> How can it be cured again, now the Hybrid ATI Astropulse app is no longer
> using an app_info? 
> All the hosts getting aborted tasks are running 6.10.18, and most of the
> rest are 6.10.18 or newer.
> 
> See this post for lots of info:
>
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=1601&nowrap=true#38
> 531
> 
> Claggy
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