Think it will be not much harm to leave CPU flops only for current version.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Anderson" <da...@ssl.berkeley.edu>
To: "Pappa" <m...@geeksamazing.com>
Cc: <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu>; <boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [boinc_alpha] Maximum time Exceeded on Hybrid ATI Astropulse 
app


> We'll reduce the scheduler's FLOPS estimate.
> Currently the estimate is (peak GPU FLOPS)/5.
> Does anyone have a suggestion for what it should be?
> Seems like it should reflect both CPU and GPU speed.
>
> -- David
>
> Pappa wrote:
>> The other side effect that has not been fully explored, there were 
>> several
>> machines that received over a hundred AP WU's to be errored out. The 
>> thought
>> is if it can not determine a proper estimate of run time from the GPU 
>> flops
>> and DCF. Only Quota will stop the runaway host.
>>
>> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=42925
>> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=42925&offset=100&sho
>> w_names=0&state=5
>>
>> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=40712
>> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=40712&offset=140&sho
>> w_names=0&state=5
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: boinc_alpha-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu
>> [mailto:boinc_alpha-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen 
>> Maclagan
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:23 PM
>> To: boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu
>> Subject: [boinc_alpha] Maximum time Exceeded on Hybrid ATI Astropulse app
>>
>> Raistmer's Hybrid ATI Astropulse app has now made it to Seti Beta as a 
>> Stock
>> app, it does only some of it's Calculations on the GPU,
>> with most of it being done on the CPU, some CPU's have been historically
>> poor at doing Astropulse because of their small L2 Caches, ie AMD chips,
>> while the C2D with the Larger caches have been a lot faster, at moment we
>> are starting to seeing some of the AMD's running into maximum time 
>> exceeded,
>> because it'll be GPU flops that taken into account when the tasks get
>> aborted,
>> There's also an i7 920 with two HD5800's also running into maximum time
>> exceeded as well, because it has the newest and fastest ATI cards out,
>> while two other i7 920's with lower Spec GPU's can manage to finish the
>> tasks O.K,
>>
>> This was cured in Boinc 6.10.14 with:
>>
>>> - client: if anonymous platform description (app_info.xml) doesn't 
>>> specify
>> FLOPS for a GPU app, assume that it runs at CPU peak speed rather than 
>> GPU
>> peak speed. Better to be conservative, otherwise job might be >aborted 
>> due
>> to time limit exceeded.
>>
>> How can it be cured again, now the Hybrid ATI Astropulse app is no longer
>> using an app_info?
>> All the hosts getting aborted tasks are running 6.10.18, and most of the
>> rest are 6.10.18 or newer.
>>
>> See this post for lots of info:
>> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=1601&nowrap=true#38
>> 531
>>
>> Claggy
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