This actually makes lots of sense. If we could record compressed lossless audio, it would save space and be of high quality. That'd be great.
I think the rub here is whether people use much lossless. In other words, if people don't widely use one of these lossless formats, then it might shut some folks out. I don't know how fast the processor is on the BN and what the system requirements would be to encode on the fly. If I had to choose whether or not I could do other stuff symultaneously based upon whether I was encoding on the fly or not, I'm not sure what I'd choose. I do hope we get some compressed audio though. In terms of compression software for the PC, I've used Cdex but that's not really what it's for and it's touchy and not real user friendly. Rusty ____________________ Skype: rustyperez Yahoo and AIM: reliroo Check out my blog at http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lysander Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:44 AM To: Braillenote List Subject: Re: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now Sidenote: if oyu were ro record directly to FLAC or Shortin or Monkey's Audio or WMA lossless or what have you, you could then convert to MP3 just like you did a wave file. Same results, better space consumption. Since FLAC is an open-source encoding scheme, (I can't remember how Shorten works but I'm pretty sure Monkey's Audio is a company and Microsoft is deffinetly not going to just give WMA lossless to Humanware for free) I would like to think that implamenting FLAC support would be a reasonable request to make. The processing power would be a problem, of course, especially if the BN is doing something else at the time, so maybe on-the-fly encoding would be out. But still. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kylee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > Of course, Rusty, there are lossless formats such as Flak and Shorten > (wish I could find an accessible encoder) which perform better than > MP3. > However, > the others are right. It's always better to record in an uncompressed > format and then convert afterwards. There are professional field > recorders which will record to MP3, but those are dedicated recording > machines. The BN, on the other hand, has many different features > which all demand processor power, so encoding on the fly in such an > environment would be a different matter from a recording machine, > whether it's a high-end solid state field recorder (such as I > regularly use) or a domestic MP3 player such as the Iriver. > > Kylee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:02 AM > Subject: RE: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > > >> Hi Joseph and Lysander, >> >> In refference to the idea that the purpose of the recorder is only >> for notes, I would bet that Jonathan would tell you that the recorder >> is for what ever you want it for. I've heard him say that it'd even >> be great if > you >> could edit audio files with the BN. So the "scope" is only as small >> or > large >> as your willing to allow it to be. >> >> In terms of licensing, there are freeware encoders and licensed encoders. >> This isn't my area of expertise, but my Iriver was very inexpensive >> and > if >> they can put an encoder in there, it's possible for low or no cost in >> the BN. >> >> I have heard, again, that when DAISY comes to the BN that encoding on >> the fly will be closer. >> >> This, I think, is in large part about space. It'd be much better to >> take > up >> only 1 meg a minute instead of 5 megs a minute for high quality > recordings. >> Imagine the space saved when a student records class lectures with a >> BN if the BN could record to mp3. >> Additionally, who wants to shuffle a bunch of .wav files to a pc, >> convert and reshuffle. >> >> This is all academic because it isn't possible yet, but I'd like to >> hope that we're headed in that direction. >> >> Rusty >> >> >> ____________________ >> Skype: rustyperez >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >> Check out my blog at >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph >> Lee >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:13 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now >> >> This is Joseph. There is a program out there called CDEx. It can >> convert between mp3 and .wav files. So, for example, if you wisi to >> convert a note that has been recorded on the BN to an mp3 file, you >> can simply transfer > the >> file to a computer and convert it that way. Recording software that >> runs > on >> the computer these days allows you to convert between multiple file > formats. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lysander >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:34 AM >> To: Braillenote List >> Subject: Re: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now >> >> The main issue is one of licensing. Since the BN is a commercial >> product, they'd have to license rights to use the encoder. Why do >> that, when you > can >> record in WAV and compress it to MP3 on a computer for free? The BN >> is a notetaker, not a recording studio. The recording feature is >> meant for > taking >> notes. I wish people would keep things in scope. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:28 AM >> Subject: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now >> >> >> > Hi folks, >> > It has been suggested that recording to mp3 or encoding on the fly >> > is not possible, or that conversion from .wav to .mp3 would be better. >> > >> > Assuming that you accept the limitations that come with mp3 >> > encoding, encoding on the fly isn't a problem at all. I own a tiny >> > Iriver mp3 player which records mp3 files on the fly. It's probably >> > got one tenth or less the power of the BN and it runs on one AA >> > battery. So encoding on the fly isn't a problem. >> > I have heard that this capability may come when DAISY support is >> > implemented. Get out your check books. :-) >> > >> > Rusty >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stacey >> > Robinson >> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:35 PM >> > To: Braillenote List >> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] vote now >> > >> > Au, >> > That does make sense. Maybe it's much better to stick with wav. >> > Stacey and Amigo >> > >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "Lysander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >> >>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:01:46 -0900 >> >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] vote now >> > >> >>It isnt' really possible to record in mp3, as you would be >> > compressing on >> >>the fly as it were. What would be nice is a wav to mp3 converter, >> > but on the >> >>other hand it would keep needing to be updated because the codecs >> > are >> >>constantly being worked on, and then you'd get into licensing >> > costs for it, >> >>not to mention that then people will be clammering for AAC and OG >> > support >> >>which all have the same inherrant problems as MP3, etc. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "Stacey Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >> >>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:03 AM >> >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] vote now >> > >> > >> >>> I'd love to be able to record in mp3. I also think it would be >> > nice to >> >>> have a program that could zip and unzip things. I'm not sure if >> > that's >> >>> possible, but as I don't use a pc, it would be nice. >> >>> Stacey and Amigo >> > >> > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>From: "Carlos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >> >>>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:56:41 -0500 >> >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] vote now >> > >> >>>>I add my vote for a revised file management system. >> > >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dan >> >>> kysor >> >>>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:15 PM >> >>>>To: [email protected] >> >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] vote now >> > >> >>>>hi fellow braillenote fans. I was on the phone with Dean Jackson >> >>> the other >> >>>>day and was extolling the virtues of adding a financial >> >>> transaction >> >>>>component to keysoft. >> >>>>Now is the time we should submit our desires for such a program, >> >>> just a >> >>>>simple checkbook utility like charles crawford's talking >> >>> checkbook program. >> >>>>So, I am officially casting my vote for our illustrious marketing >> >>> manager's >> >>>>ears, OK MOSEN! >> >>>>dan >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>___ >> >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > >> > >> >>>>___ >> >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > >> > >> >>> ___ >> >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > >> > >> > >> >>___ >> >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: > 17/02/2006 >> >> > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
