The job requires Office 2007, and I cannot have two separate ones on the
computer.  


Rose Combs
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: mike welty [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Rose Combs; 'Karyn Campbell'; 'Braillenote Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN users?

I don't know if many things work well with office 2007 yet, that may be some

of your problem there. I use office 2003 still and am doing ok with outlook.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <[email protected]>
To: "'Karyn Campbell'" <[email protected]>; "'Braillenote Discussion 
List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 15:18
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN users?


>I did the 8 upgrade because I have already paid for it a couple of years 
>ago
> but frankly, it offers nothing to someone working in the real world where
> Word, Outlook etc, are the common every day tools.  The HTML mail issues 
> has
> been around as long as the Word issues, at least since 2002 when Larry 
> Lewis
> asked the list to present suggestions for future upgrades.
>
> I still am unable to sync my Braille Note calender with Outlook 2007 on
> Vista, I don't need chat, I can use my computer for that if I wish, I have

> a
> VR Stream for audible books which is more portable than a Braille Note, I
> have no real intention of using the GPS because again carrying around a
> Braille Note, a GPS receiver etc is a lot to manage with a cane, I have 
> used
> the FM radio maybe twice just to see if it worked, play the games very
> occasionally, but for the most part the BN has been lately mostly for
> reading and tracking appointments which I then have to do double entry for
> to get them into my computer.
>
> So yes, I did the upgrade, but, when my M-Power transplant wears out, I
> doubt I will go back for an upgrade or replacement from HW.  I need real
> world stuff like better Word document handling, communications with the 
> real
> world, in a messenger client if I am going to use the Braille note for 
> that
> etc.
>
> Any HW staff out there this comes from someone who in 2001 was a very
> outspoken proponent of the Braille note, however, with the last few
> upgrades, you have not given me the tools I need to stay competitive in 
> the
> work world so when my transplant starts giving up, I will probably be
> looking elsewhere unless something changes here, I love what I can do with
> my unit now, but it has not really changed for me in years, I still cannot
> open documents from work unless I jump through a lot of hoops first, I 
> can't
> sync my appointments since I now use Vista, the e-mail client is clunky
> especially compared to Outlook on the computer.  So as of now reading is
> about the best thing the Braille Note does for me.
>
> Rose Combs
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karyn 
> Campbell
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:44 AM
> To: Braillenote Discussion List
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN 
> users?
>
> Hello all,
>
> I don't know what I will do regarding this underwhelming upgrade.  We'll
> have to see.  The only benefit would be the ability to use WPA on our 
> router
> after spending money to replace our Ambicom WIFI cards as we have the 
> older
> cards; and it is my understanding from an expert on this list that they
> don't work with WPA.
>
> It is my understanding from talking with my husband that the competition 
> is
> running on Windows Mobile 5 or 6 while we are still running on Windows CE
> 4.2.  Talk about backwards.  My husband further tells me that there would 
> be
> some rewrite of the software to upgrade to a new OS but this is necessary
> and HW needs to do it.
>
> With regard to keychat, I am not impressed because you are extremely 
> limited
> in what you can do with it.  It will only work with Google talk and I-chat
> server according to what people have said on this list.  If you want to
> communicate with someone who uses AIM, Yahoo or Windows Live, you had 
> better
> have a PC because this machine won't do it.  I know there are some people
> for whom this is their only means of accessing E-mail and the Internet, 
> thus
> putting them further behind in today's ever changing world of technology.
>
> Then there's the upgrade for Audible books.  While that might be nice for
> some people, it doesn't help those who have been asking for better word
> support for many, many years now.  HW can say it is a Microsoft issue but
> that excuse is wearing very thin with me as I believe it is an HW issue 
> more
> than a Microsoft issue at this point.  How come we are totally ignored on
> this vital issue?  Remember that some people do use these units for
> employment and if Word support doesn't improve, they will go elsewhere for
> their note taker needs; and it would not surprise me if some already have.
>
> Then there is direct support for HTML E-mail.  How long have we been 
> asking
> for this?  I would say that the answer is many, many years.  This one goes
> back several years, I want to say at least 2005 if not sooner.  Someone 
> can
> correct me if I am wrong on that one.
>
> I have already addressed the need for an OS upgrade.  Who knows whether we
> will see any answers on these vital issues.
>
> Again  I don't know what I am going to do regarding this underwhelming
> upgrade, especially considering the lengthy delay in getting it out the
> door.  Do what is best for you.
>
> Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, [email protected]
> Using VN QT M Power running KS 7.5 b 28
> Check out my blog at packerbackerkaryn.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
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