I asked this in an earlier message but got no response so will try again.
Has anyone successfully downloaded Keysync 4? Where did you find it? 

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:26 PM
To: 'mike welty'; 'Karyn Campbell'; 'Braillenote Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN users?

The job requires Office 2007, and I cannot have two separate ones on the
computer.  


Rose Combs
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: mike welty [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Rose Combs; 'Karyn Campbell'; 'Braillenote Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN users?

I don't know if many things work well with office 2007 yet, that may be some

of your problem there. I use office 2003 still and am doing ok with outlook.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Combs" <[email protected]>
To: "'Karyn Campbell'" <[email protected]>; "'Braillenote Discussion
List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 15:18
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN users?


>I did the 8 upgrade because I have already paid for it a couple of 
>years ago  but frankly, it offers nothing to someone working in the 
>real world where  Word, Outlook etc, are the common every day tools.  
>The HTML mail issues  has  been around as long as the Word issues, at 
>least since 2002 when Larry  Lewis  asked the list to present 
>suggestions for future upgrades.
>
> I still am unable to sync my Braille Note calender with Outlook 2007 
> on Vista, I don't need chat, I can use my computer for that if I wish, 
> I have

> a
> VR Stream for audible books which is more portable than a Braille 
> Note, I have no real intention of using the GPS because again carrying 
> around a Braille Note, a GPS receiver etc is a lot to manage with a 
> cane, I have used the FM radio maybe twice just to see if it worked, 
> play the games very occasionally, but for the most part the BN has 
> been lately mostly for reading and tracking appointments which I then 
> have to do double entry for to get them into my computer.
>
> So yes, I did the upgrade, but, when my M-Power transplant wears out, 
> I doubt I will go back for an upgrade or replacement from HW.  I need 
> real world stuff like better Word document handling, communications 
> with the real world, in a messenger client if I am going to use the 
> Braille note for that etc.
>
> Any HW staff out there this comes from someone who in 2001 was a very 
> outspoken proponent of the Braille note, however, with the last few 
> upgrades, you have not given me the tools I need to stay competitive 
> in the work world so when my transplant starts giving up, I will 
> probably be looking elsewhere unless something changes here, I love 
> what I can do with my unit now, but it has not really changed for me 
> in years, I still cannot open documents from work unless I jump 
> through a lot of hoops first, I can't sync my appointments since I now 
> use Vista, the e-mail client is clunky especially compared to Outlook 
> on the computer.  So as of now reading is about the best thing the 
> Braille Note does for me.
>
> Rose Combs
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karyn 
> Campbell
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:44 AM
> To: Braillenote Discussion List
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8.0, is it a good thing for all BN 
> users?
>
> Hello all,
>
> I don't know what I will do regarding this underwhelming upgrade.  
> We'll have to see.  The only benefit would be the ability to use WPA 
> on our router after spending money to replace our Ambicom WIFI cards 
> as we have the older cards; and it is my understanding from an expert 
> on this list that they don't work with WPA.
>
> It is my understanding from talking with my husband that the 
> competition is running on Windows Mobile 5 or 6 while we are still 
> running on Windows CE 4.2.  Talk about backwards.  My husband further 
> tells me that there would be some rewrite of the software to upgrade 
> to a new OS but this is necessary and HW needs to do it.
>
> With regard to keychat, I am not impressed because you are extremely 
> limited in what you can do with it.  It will only work with Google 
> talk and I-chat server according to what people have said on this 
> list.  If you want to communicate with someone who uses AIM, Yahoo or 
> Windows Live, you had better have a PC because this machine won't do 
> it.  I know there are some people for whom this is their only means of 
> accessing E-mail and the Internet, thus putting them further behind in 
> today's ever changing world of technology.
>
> Then there's the upgrade for Audible books.  While that might be nice 
> for some people, it doesn't help those who have been asking for better 
> word support for many, many years now.  HW can say it is a Microsoft 
> issue but that excuse is wearing very thin with me as I believe it is 
> an HW issue more than a Microsoft issue at this point.  How come we 
> are totally ignored on this vital issue?  Remember that some people do 
> use these units for employment and if Word support doesn't improve, 
> they will go elsewhere for their note taker needs; and it would not 
> surprise me if some already have.
>
> Then there is direct support for HTML E-mail.  How long have we been 
> asking for this?  I would say that the answer is many, many years.  
> This one goes back several years, I want to say at least 2005 if not 
> sooner.  Someone can correct me if I am wrong on that one.
>
> I have already addressed the need for an OS upgrade.  Who knows 
> whether we will see any answers on these vital issues.
>
> Again  I don't know what I am going to do regarding this underwhelming 
> upgrade, especially considering the lengthy delay in getting it out 
> the door.  Do what is best for you.
>
> Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, [email protected] Using VN QT M Power 
> running KS 7.5 b 28 Check out my blog at 
> packerbackerkaryn.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
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