Joseph: true, but backspace-q works just as well, and "abandoning keyword" is just a message that the data is gone, not a prompt to be sure you want to do this. Besides, backspace-q does offer an "are you sure" prompt, which is how it should be when exiting from the "save as a keyword document" prompt.
Alice: the options are yes, which will prompt for the location and name of the keysoft document; no, which will return you to the keyword menu; s, which will suppress this prompt for this document; and exit, which will not save the document at all (though it will not warn you it is not saving). The advantages of a keyword document are that you will not see this or the "review the options" prompt, but you will have to translate the file into a common format if you want to give it to someone running anything other than another brailleNote. On 11/10/10, alice dampman Humel <[email protected]> wrote: > So what are you suppose to do at this prompt? Saving the document > as a keysoft file means you can't read it anywhere else but on > the BN, right? > What exactly are the options anyhow? I think I've pressed > space e to exit when I've read that prompt, but I don't think I > lost anything...yet! > Thanks. > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> > To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] very tired of this. so making a > suggestion. > > > I know why you lose changes, but what frustrates me to no end is > that > pressing space-e from the "save as a keyword document" prompt > will, > with no warning, cause all your changes to be lost. I still > remember > finding this out by exiting this prompt on a class final several > years > ago, then opening up the final to print it only to find all my > answers > GONE! Keysoft never warned me that this would happen; all I did > was > exit from a prompt, which I should be able to do without worrying > that > it will destroy data. > > On 11/10/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> Good points. I'd like to slightly differ on that though: Most >> of this comes >> from how these files are structured. The conversion process >> from non-KeyWord >> type to KeySoft type not only translates from one grade to >> another, but also >> adds special markers and other useful data to the file. As for >> Zach's post, >> as Alex said, pressing ENTER would actually skip "review >> options" prompt >> altogether until you open the file again. >> As for losing data, there is a story behind it (somewhat of a >> non-trivial >> one): When you work with open files, you are working with >> another copy of >> the file in question. The original copy is still located on a >> storage device >> and the "active" copy is stored on physical memory. This may >> sound odd, but >> it makes sense, since computers need to load the file to RAM >> before opening >> it. As a consequence, when you quit a document, the resulting >> changes will >> not be saved, since the storage device version of the file >> would not have >> been modified. The only time the storage device version would >> be modified is >> when you actually save the file (either via "save" command or >> exiting the >> program). >> I'll rrite a detailed explanation on the next post. Hope this >> helps. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> David Meador >> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:50 AM >> To: Mike Welty; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] very tired of this. so making a >> suggestion. >> >> I agree with Zachary Dreicer. The user is constantly forced to >> answer a prompt that is not wanted 95% of the time. And if you >> one time accidentally exit without answering, you lose your >> newly >> edited data altogether, not good. >> >> >> >> Beyond Vision >> >> Nashville, TN 615-385-0784 >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Mike Welty" <[email protected] >>>To: "dreicer, zachary" <[email protected]>,"Braillenote" >> <[email protected] >>>Date sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:49:11 -0500 >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] very tired of this. so making a >> suggestion. >> >>>dude, you can set what format files are saved as by default, >>>and >> those >>>review options you find so annoying are used to translate >> documents if you >>>wish too to grade 2 on the fly. it's not that hard to get past >> it is it? >> >> >>>-------------------------------------------------- >>>From: "dreicer, zachary" <[email protected] >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:30 >>>To: "Braillenote" <[email protected] >>>Subject: [Braillenote] very tired of this. so making a >> suggestion. >> >>>> i'm tired of some documents wanting to be saved as keyword >> documents. >>>> Also, I'm tired of braillenote asking about reviewing the >> options and >>>> reviewing previous options when opening such file types as >>>> doc, >> rtf, and >>>> brf. My suggestion is to make a separate menu under format, >>>> or >> something. >>>> It may be good for some users, but for me, it's just extra >>>> junk. >> Thanks. >> >>>> ___ >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>> copy to the list as well. >> >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >>>___ >>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>copy to the list as well. >> >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[email protected] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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