Julia Thompson wrote:

> It's a lot nicer to spend a day or two comforting a child who's having a
> reaction from a vaccine or three than to actually deal with the child
> getting the disease and being *sick* for a lot longer than that, and
> possibly carry effects of that illness for the rest of his life (if he
> *has* a "rest of his life" after the illness).
>
> Oh, and you can contain a disease without vaccinating 100% of the
> population, but if the vaccination rate falls too low, the unvaccinated
> will be sitting ducks, the lot of them.  And that's totally unfair to
> the ones who weren't vaccinated due to contraindications, because
> they'll probably be hit harder.  If you're not going to vaccinate your
> kid for some non-medical ideological reason, I don't want him anywhere
> near mine.  (So THERE!  :P)
>

Well that's just it. Some of the vaccinations can seriously debillitate a
child or even kill it. I'd like to know about those risks, _all_ the risks.
In the Netherlands the former minister of health Els Borst said that it
wasn't necesary for parents to have the full information as to what side
effects certain vaccines hold, because they only occur in few cases and too
much information would only make parents worry too much. I find that
insulting to my intelligence. As I found out it is rather difficult to find
any information as too side effects of vaccines. At the moment I'm deciding
on whether or not to vaccinate Tom with a new vaccine, it is against
menigitis C. It hasn't been around for all that long (about  year) and in
order to get all children vaccinated medics have been rather shady as to the
sort of side effects it can cause, that is side effects in the short term,
because they simply don't know about any long term effects. Also it is a
vaccine that only vaccinates against the much less common (although there
has been an increase in the number of cases over the past few years)
meningitis C not the much more feared meningitis B.
I feel that vaccinating just because we can, isn't a good idea. First
considering all the options with the pros and cons, then weighing the risks
and only then choosing what is best for the child, to me seems a much better
idea. So although I'm not against vaccinations in general I'm against
thoughtless vaccinations.

Sonja

Does population wide vacination make virusses that have been around for ages
more virulent?

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