----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:11 PM
Subject: Contraception and Wedding Nights Re: science Vs religion


> At 06:21 PM 11/8/2002 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
> >> >Given that sex is a vital part of a wedding night, I think most
couples
> >> >will want >99.9% (rather than a mere 75%) chance of being able to have
sex
> >> >on their wedding night...   :-)
> >>
> >> Is it really all that significant when the couple have been sharing
board
> >> and bed for the past year?
> >
> >But what about the cases in which they haven't?  And would those be more
> >likely, statistically speaking, to want to use NFP rather than other
> >means of contraception anyway?
>
> You mean like, oh I don't know........ if the bride and groom are both
> practicing Catholics??? ;-)
>
> And I will say that no, at least as far as I have been taught, sex on the
> wedding night is not necessarily important.   For one thing, both the
groom
> and especially the bride may be completely stressed out by the events of
> the day, and it may also be already getting pretty late.   I've been told
> that it is not uncommon for the couple to wait until the morning of the
> next day to consummate their marriage, after spending the night chastely
in
> each other's arms for the first time.   And of course, if the couple is
> Catholic and practicing NFP with intent to avoid conception, they may
> choose to wait as much as a week before consummating their marriage - in
> the meantime they may be exploring a few of those steps of intimacy
before
> intercourse that they had mutually decided to refrain from before
marriage.
>
> Oh, and there certainly are a great many Catholic couples, especially in
> this day and age of marrying in your late 20's or later, that are
prefectly
> happy to role the dice of contraception on their wedding night.
>

Of course OTOH, most catholics ignore the Pope  and his edicts as a matter
of course. I do not know a single Catholic who uses any form of birth
control other than "The Pill". And this includes people who one would
describe in all other ways as "devout".

So I think you need some extra adjective in front of catholic for Johns
statement to be more accurate. But what John says is true in a dogmatic sort
of way.

xponent
Catmatic Maru
rob


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