----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Contraception and Wedding Nights Re: science Vs religion


> Right, but unless one has a grave reason to use contraception, it is hard
> to envision a scenario in which not using contraception would violate
one's
> own conscience.   Thus, the principle of obedience in this case would
apply
> - unless one is able to meet the very high standard of not using
> contraception violating one's conscience.

I never took a vow of obedience.  If something is right by my conscience,
then I can do it, no matter what the pope says.  I do not consider the
Catholic church to have much moral authority when it comes to families.

But, even if I agreed with you on the need for obedience unless I thought
it was wrong, it would be wrong for me to obey. I would cause damage to my
family by following the teachings of popes who, to be blunt, don't know
what they are talking about and refuse to listen to people who do know.
Its like following the suggestions of a art critic who has been blind from
birth.

Dan M.



Dan M.


Dan M.



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