Now that I'm getting some energy back, I propose that it's time to discuss the list and copyright. Jeroen's legal notice is inappropriate, I believe, so I'd like to propose a new list policy that would deal with such matters as simply as possible.
So here is my proposal: COPYRIGHT POLICY The intent of this policy is to ensure that postings to this list are treated no differently than postings to similar Internet-based mailing lists. Therefore, your postings may not contain language that would alter others' rights to make copies. This policy is not intended to define such rights, which are determined and evolve in other venues. -- In other words, I don't want us to try and decide what is or is not okay in terms of archiving, copying or publishing these messages. All I'm proposing is that everyone who posts agrees that we'll play by the same rules, despite potential disagreement about what those rules might be. Again, let's not (in this thread, anyway) spin off into whether it's okay for web sites to archive messages, for Jeroen to publish a CD archive, etc. Those can be separate (and possibly difficult) issues. I'm only proposing that we find language that says we've all agreed not to try to create special cases for ourselves, which is what Jeroen's on-again, off-again legal notice seeks to do, in my opinion. So... there are two things that I'd like to discuss: Is such a policy a good idea? If so, does the wording above accomplish it? Whaddya say? In about a week, I'd like to look at the debate and scratch my head until some semblance of consensus emerges. Finally, I'll add that one of the most impressive things I've seen lately was a group of people who clearly knew how to disagree with each other, yet stay focused on *making a good decision* rather than on winning the argument. They were activist residents of a very poor community, who apparently haven't been infected by big media's protrayal of politics as a cynical game. This is not about who's going to win; it's about what's best for our community. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l