> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 6:55 AM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: The Eyes Have It
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:43:14AM -0400, David Hobby wrote:
> 
> >       Oh.  Good to know.  Just to clarify, that's around 10,000 
> > Angstroms, and "above" means "of longer wavelength"?
> 
> Yes. The tinting is usually done with a semiconducting 
> material, so light with wavelength longer than the bandgap 
> wavelength will pass. You can also tint by partially 
> "silvering" the glass, but this introduces reflections which 
> may be distracting.

There is also polarization that may help, but I would think principally, you
only need to to scatter the light enough to blur the image. Contact lenses
can be made to be reflective, to completely obscure the iris, while letting
light through to the lens. The silvering could be applied to the contact
lens. See http://www.wild-eyes.com/flash.htm .

> >     So you think that would be the method?  Just pick a 
> wavelength where 
> > glasses/contacts are probably transparent, and work there.
> 
> No idea. Like you, I wonder about resolution. It seems it 
> would take some really good (expensive) optics to get 
> adequate resolution from a distance.

Current video merely captures EM radiation of specific wavelengths. Optics
may provide some range, but it would be prone to glare. Another
consideration is that in order to get better resolution, some smarts needs
to be built into the camera system to zoom to the correct location, the
eyes. Sunglasses may very well mask the face recgonition algorythmns to make
it harder to zoom onto the eyes.  

Simply stated, this technology is already easily defeated. I could wear
contact lenses that appear to look natural, but in fact, appear like someone
else's. this security method will only catch those that are not aware they
are being (or will be) scanned.

What is truly alarming, is that the intent of this security method is to
perform security metrics without consent or direct knowledge. Fingerprinting
profiling is more accurate, and harder to spoof, it requires explicit
consent and knowledge.


Nerd From Hell
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