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From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out


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> >From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out
> >Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 11:19:19 -0500
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:53 AM
> >Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out
> >
> >
> >
> > > >Maybe someone here knows, but I thought the Vatican's riches had
quite
> > > >a bit to do with banking over the last few centuries.
> > >
> > > I'm not really sure. I do know that priests receive a salary of sorts
> >that I
> > > believe comes from the Vatican. As for tithing (commonly given/taken
> >through
> > > *collections* at mass), it is utilized in the upkeep and running of
> > > individual parishes. And in many cases this money is short of where
it
> >needs
> > > to be in order to adequately address the financial hurdles that
parishes
> > > must overcome to remain open.
> >
> >The Vatican's riches are basically the artwork and other antiques that
it
> >has gathered over the centuries. They also got some funds when Italy
took
> >over most of Vatican City, back in the '30's I think...but it might have
> >been the '20s.   The main source of funding for the entire Catholic
church
> >is
> >
> >1) Contributions from US parishes.
> >
> >2) Contribution from the German Catholic church, where the government
still
> >subsidizes churches.
>
> Thanks. I didn't know that. And not that I don't believe ya, but do you
have
> anything to back that up?

The last Vatican financial statement that I have is for the year 2002.  In
this statement, given at

http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=38649


I have obtained the following numbers: (all in euros)

giving 85,385,000
real estate 19,082,000
financial -16,308,000
misc 5,000,000
total 93,159,000


The giving is not broken down by country, but it is very well known that
church attendance and giving are far higher in the US than in Europe.
Germany is the exception because of the tax.

Dan M.


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