At 10:14 PM 8/8/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
>> >>And dropping bombs on Saddam Hussein's armies was not evil.
>> >
>> >So, the action of killing conscripts of Hussein, many of whom are there
>> >because they had no choice, in inherently an acceptable action?
>
>> You are changing the subject.   Not once have I ever said that it was
>> "inherently acceptable", I merely said that it was *not* "inherently
>> evil."
>
>but you also said:
>
>The killing of innocent people is an objective evil.   (True)
>
>So, the logical conclusion is that you believe that the soldiers in
>Hussein's army are not innocent because they accepted their conscription
>instead of death or torture.  Is that it? 

Yes, I do not believe that they are "innocent."   I think that even you
would describe them as having chosen the "lesser evil", would you not?   In
which, case, they are still engaging in evil.  

>You don't consider them victims
>of Hussein too?

I think that I would also consider them victims.  Without fully thinking
through the implications of this just yet, this would suggest to me that
conscription in in a totalitarian state is a particularly insidious form of
evil, as it corrupts the innocent into becoming agents of oppression.

JDG

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