----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: "God Is With Us" L3


> --- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:44 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
> > Yes, interpretation of historical events is at least
> > partly objective.
> > Given that I can see how some things that might be
> > clear to me may not
> > be to others.
>
> Or, alternately, why things you think are clear are
> very clearly wrong to others.
>
> > Nothing about them specifically is a lesson from
> > Nam, but I listed more
> > than their names as lessons. I brought *them* up to
> > point out that
> > once-failed leadership was in charge of this second
> > debacle, and that
> > should have been a point of concern before the
> > invasion of Iraq. It
> > wasn't.
>
> Well, first, Cheney was part of the Nixon
> Adminstration for about a week, since he was on Gerald
> Ford's staff.  I'm not sure Rumsfeld was _ever_ part
> of the Nixon Administration.

I didn't realize it either, but he was.  According to:

http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/rumsfeld.html

>From 1969 to 1970, he served as Director of the Office of Economic
Opportunity and Assistant to the President. From 1971 to 1972, he was
Counsellor to the President and Director of the Economic Stabilization
Program. In 1973, he left Washington, DC, to serve as U.S. Ambassador to
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in Brussels, Belgium
(1973-1974).

I rather suspect that Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity or the
Director of the Economic Stabilization Program had virtually nothing to do
with running the Viet Nam war, though.  :-)

Dan M.


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